caicarl30 发表于 2012-5-7 09:20

大师Brobs17 4123 Ultimate Tactic 12.2.2 (5.5日,适合任何球队,特别中小球队)

官网地址:http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/305972-Brobs17-Ultimate-Tactic-12.2.2-ANY-TEAM-CAN-USE-TO-GAIN-SUCCESS


Hey guys!!! First of all ANY TEAM CAN USE THIS TACTIC. PLEASE USE THIS HOME AND AWAY
Sorry about the wait for my tactic as I've not had my laptop in function recently but now I have finally made it. I also apologise for the delay of the release as I wasn't complete convinced that it was 'the one' but now I most definitely am.
I've had great success teams as low as Wycombe to Wigan to Newcastle to Stoke to Fulham and to Chelsea. All of these teams this tactic has worked for but I do STRESS that you MAY need to give this tactic time (say 7-10 matches) but for most of new (especially the better clubs in the division, It should work right away).
Firstly, WOW this patch has been HARD. Alot of credit to the other tactical gurus out there! To make a successful tactic has been hard that you can use on a consistent basis. The Match Engine took ages for me to figure out and it's got a hell of a lot wider which requires higher pressure on the ball and a higher defensive line (in my opinion).
Anyway down to the tactic. It is a 4-1-2-3 formation. PLEASE DON'T TINKER WITH IT... IT IS SET UP AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE AFTER EXTENSIVE TESTING
The Tactic is again on how I think Football should be played. Football is not about short passing but about selecting the right pass whether long or short - its about having a Plan B if Plan A is not working.The only way way that this tactic may slip up on is if the game cheats you out of a win and with the AI keeper having the game of this life which is pretty damn frustrating.


The Tactic is based on zonal positioning so the team know there jobs and positioning before a ball has even been kicked rather than basing marking on how the opposition set up and altering the positioning of the team depending on how AI plays i.e different opposing formations.

I also want to make a point of playing players who are fresher and have a better condition if possible. AI really takes the condition of players into account and the better the condition of the players the better they will perform. Try to have a squad of atleast 25 squad players who are all good enough to fill into the first team. And rest your better players if you have a big game coming up etc.


So down to the tactic:


It is a 4-1-2-3 formation (my specialty)




(make sure these settings/rules are followed):


PLEASE PLUG IN THIS TACTIC AT THE VERY START OF THE GAME OR IN PRE-SEASON IF YOU ARE IN YOUR SECOND SEASON.


Pitch Size: Minimum
Plug and Play tactic (classic)
NO Opposition Instructions
Team talks to assistant manager
No match shouts as it is a Classic Tactic.

Match preparation

Work Load: Average
Additional Area Focus: Defensive Positioning


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Player requirements:


GK: Jumping, Reflexes, One on Ones and Rushing out
CBs Jumping, heading,stamina, tackling and marking
FBs Positioning Tackling Pace Heading Marking Team Work Workrate
DMC Passing, tackling, marking, stamina.
CMS Pass and technique and workrate
For 3 Strikers Pace,dribbling,technique, acceleration,off the ball and finishing.


PLUG AND PLAY TACTIC. Do not tinker with the tactic


Set-piece are set up in the tactic.


Give it 7-8 games to settle in and do not tinker with the tactic or put OI's on. Although it should be working quicker than this if you have plugged it in at pre-season. Please plug and play this and do not let the computer simulate results.


On team instructions I have ticked counter attack, use target man and use playmaker. It gets the ball up to the strikers more quicker by enabling this in the team instructions. There is no specific playmaker/target man so do NOT drag players into the 'playermaker' or 'target man' option.


If my team goes down to 10 men = Take a central midfielder off... its vital to keep 3 strikers in this tactic, due to the special marking upfront.


Let me know what you think of it, any enjoy the tactic especially those of you who prefer to manage smaller clubs! I'm certain you will enjoy it, have fun.

战术:

whyzg007 发表于 2012-5-7 09:20

路过求个翻译。

lotto 发表于 2012-5-7 09:27

用了感觉明显没有以前的厉害啊,不晓得是不是真如MR.HOUGH说的1222不适合3前锋,用诺维奇开档5W6D5L

caicarl30 发表于 2012-5-7 09:28

回复 3# lotto


    恩,我也看了这个官网帖子,反应不一。不过貌似433确实不适合12.22,各种完爆。

kimisu 发表于 2012-5-7 09:51

1222当然适合三前锋...只不过MR和BROBS都过于偏爱4123的站位不懂变通搞的防守很烂而已....433又不只这一种站位....

lotto 发表于 2012-5-7 09:56

求楼上大神指点一二

murata0623 发表于 2012-5-7 09:58

诶,全明都在4123了

kimisu 发表于 2012-5-7 10:33

本帖最后由 kimisu 于 2012-5-7 10:36 编辑

回复 6# lotto


我的平行433打出来的


4123的防守集中在中路,中场三人倒三角的站位导致横向防守面积窄,边路空虚.
DM的位置本身是属于较被动的防守站位.在进攻中压迫力不够.
而整体上他们做的4123不是打控球而是寻求高效反击的阵,防守主要靠中后场,三前锋参与回防力度不够.这种防守体系其实是有些脱节的(好像严格心态,防守的就防守,进攻的就进攻),助教反馈里也会说中场脱节,前锋孤立无援.
本身4123的防守是有缺陷的---中场附近边路
不过4123的亮点就是三前锋最大化了攻击力.
弱队用这个效果好也是因为强队不跟你打反击,你的三前锋把反击效率最大化.反之强队用这个打龟缩的弱队效果未必好...

lv5688 发表于 2012-5-7 10:39

战术合适就OK了

煙神 发表于 2012-5-7 11:31

不知道效果如何啊

煙神 发表于 2012-5-7 11:38

用了一场,客场被乌鸡爆出翔了

edisonwang8978 发表于 2012-5-7 20:30

有没有站位图⋯⋯⋯⋯拉线么⋯⋯⋯⋯

caicarl30 发表于 2012-5-7 21:11

回复 12# edisonwang8978


    就是和MR HOUGH大师经典433那个一样,不过现在据说12.22不好用你试试。

lotto 发表于 2012-5-8 08:34

大师自己也表示这个阵型在1222罩不住啊

kimisu 发表于 2012-5-8 08:42

回复 14# lotto


    呵呵...没落了@@

caicarl30 发表于 2012-5-8 08:46

回复 14# lotto


    我说很多大师的作品都是442和或者451

caicarl30 发表于 2012-5-8 08:49

回复 15# kimisu


    这个大师的话:
I found my previous tactics for previous patches didnt work for this patch.
This patch had been an absolute nightmare. It seems it's been a real hit for some whilst not so
Much for others.
I'll look at it and hopefully bring out another update or two as I did last time. Thanks for the feedback



看来MR HOUGH大师还是很厉害的,现在就MR的战术我用着最好。

kimisu 发表于 2012-5-8 08:54

本帖最后由 kimisu 于 2012-5-8 08:57 编辑

回复 17# caicarl30


    如果他们俩能跳出倒三角的433站位思维,应该不会认为三前锋不给力或者433不适合1222吧

其实他们的战术思路非常清晰,但也许是SI根据他们的战术修改了某些AI行为(甚至是修改的更为合理和聪明),导致那种一脚找前锋直接单刀的时代一去不复返...至少1222相比1204的中场拦截和后防预判卡位能力提升非常明显.这也许就是他们做了这么多年的4123发现走到死胡同的原因吧.

caicarl30 发表于 2012-5-8 08:56

回复 18# kimisu


    目前大师MR的战术还是最好的,用他的没错。

kimisu 发表于 2012-5-8 08:58

回复 19# caicarl30


    这点没错,配置简单,效果直接,确实是适应面极广的好阵~
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