Safo 发表于 2007-11-15 05:36

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真是太经典了!!!

cecil20047 发表于 2007-11-15 16:32

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非常感谢LZ,真是好东西!!

1219241 发表于 2007-11-15 17:16

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有两句话不明白1.Good Strikers with poor pace you can mark tightly
2.DC marking a pacey forward in a 2 man attack: never close down and always tight marking
这不就是说,速度快和曼都要贴身???

还有要是方对方边路球员的弱脚,那不就是让他们切到中路来射门了么?不太明白

koko_1104 发表于 2007-11-15 18:45

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好贴!收藏啦:default6:

天纵云 发表于 2007-11-15 23:21

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精品啊,谢谢楼主翻译了

jzsh 发表于 2007-11-15 23:46

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:JLH7: 虽然我玩了快四年了,但是还是受益匪浅啊!!
强烈感激!!

RobinVanPersie 发表于 2007-11-16 04:15

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收藏。。。慢慢品味。。。

myheyang 发表于 2007-11-16 08:09

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此帖不顶实在说不过去,copy下来,这是第一手资料

lifemelody 发表于 2007-11-16 19:58

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给楼主帮个忙,我试翻一下帖子目前的最后一楼

Detailed look at a 442 and attributes need for FM
详述442和球员属性

Picking a formation in Football Manager can be a daunting task at times, do you go with the unknown and try a 343 and be a bit adventurous or do you stick to the good old 442. The reason why so many people use 442 is because its familiar and always a safe bet for any side to use, its also very flexible and allows you to change into other systems during a match if you need to shake things up a bit. Another reason why the 442 is so popular is because of the balance between defending and scoring, you can create a very solid 442 that is tight at the back but lethal when going forward. A lot of other formations like a 424 or 433 all have quite a few weaknesses against certain formations were as the 442 can be used against almost every formation there is.
选择阵型是个让人头疼的活,你是喜欢冒险尝试343还是坚持老套的442?无数人最熟悉也最爱442,因为它不仅均衡,同时也非常灵活易于调整。也正因为它在攻防两端的均衡,你才能创造一个既防守坚固也进攻犀利的阵型。许多其他的阵型,例如424和433,天生就有致命的缺点,而442,在对付任何阵型时都不会落于下风。

There are a few types of 442;

Standard 442, Diamond, Diamond Wide, Defensive Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder, Sweeper/Stopper
442有下面一些类型:
平行442,小菱形442,大菱形442,后腰形442,前腰型442,清道夫/盯人中卫442

These are the basic 442's that you are likely to encounter.
各种常见的442:

Standard 442

This is the more neutral focused 442 that concentrates on the defending and attacking ability of you're team, this is a very good starting point for any side to see what you're team is capable of. This type of formation should produce a fair amount of goals as well as keeping it very tight at the back if set up correctly. The wingers in this formation are vital for providing crosses into the box for your strikers. A lot of people also like to play one attacking midfielder and one defensive midfielder to make it a lot more balanced.
平行442
这是最中庸最均衡的442,能最真实的反映你队伍的实力。如果你设置的好,进攻和防守两端都会较强。此阵型最大的威力来自边锋的传中。很多人为了更平衡,喜欢把两个中前卫设为一个进攻型一个防守型。

Diamond

The 442 diamond normally consists of a flat back four, two central midfielder, a defensive midfielder, an attacking midfielder and 2 strikers. This set-up is very dependant on your fullbacks as they will be responsible for getting forward at every opportunity available because you have no wingers. So at times if the fullbacks are struggling to get forward you might find your strikers could get isolated for periods in the game. The wings can be a problem area at times, especially if you're playing against two very good wingers as they will have lots of space and time on the ball. If you do use this formation ensure that your fullbacks are good going forward but extremely good at defending duties too.
小菱形442
这个阵型由4后卫,1后腰,2中前卫,1前腰,2前锋组成。因为你没有边锋,两个边后卫的要求非常高,边路进攻他俩必须搞定。如果他俩助攻上不去,前锋会常常要不到球。如果对手的边锋很强,这个阵型会比较吃力。如果你要用这个阵型,请先确认你有两个NB的边后卫。(比如加速、速度、耐力、抢断、防守站位等等都在18以上的那种)

Diamond Wide

Unlike the diamond one above this set-up does have wingers and is a good system to use if you want to use overlapping fullbacks (these are explained further down). The vital part of this formation is the attacking midfielder’s position and the defensive midfielders too. The attacking midfielder will have both attacking and defensive duties; if he does not track players back when your side is not in possession of the ball then you will have a huge gap in middle of the park. This can cause big problems as your defensive midfielder will then move forward to try and win the ball and if he doesn't win it your defence will have all sorts of problems to deal with.
大菱形442
和上面一个阵型不同,这个阵型有边前卫,所以弱点不是那么大。此阵型的弱点在于前腰和后腰的防守。前腰要求攻防俱佳,如果他防守不行,中场中路就会给对手留出巨大的空间。这时如果你的后腰也抢断失败,你就完蛋了。


Defensive Midfielder

One of the more popular 442 systems to use is one that implements a defensive midfielder. This offers extra cover in front of the back four and when used right you should find the opposition’s chances are rather limited. This is an extremely useful set-up if you need to keep clean sheets and dominate the game in the midfield areas. The defensive midfielder’s job is to break up play and distribute the ball up field as quick as possible or hold onto the ball and wait until a clear cut pass arises, however holding onto the ball for too long can cause problems especially if he loses possession from dwelling on the ball.
后腰型442(四后卫,DMC,ML,MR,MC, 2 FC)
最流行的442之一。后腰为后卫线提供了额外的屏障,使得防守更为坚固。当你不想丢球而且控制中场时,尤其有用。此后腰的任务是截断对手进攻,直传发动反击,或者控制球等待队友跑到空当(注意如果控球时间过长被断的话就危险了)。


Attacking Midfielder

Another popular choice on the Football Manager series is the use of an attacking midfielder. A lot of people use this system and play through the attacking midfielder letting him get forward and create chances. A free role can work well in this position for the correct player as it allows him the licence to roam and wander looking for the ball. However if you play through the attacking midfielder the opposition might soon see this and make it incredibly difficult for you to get the ball to him. If you realise this is happening then change your passing style to down the wings and utilise the wingers.
前腰型442 (4后卫,ML,MC,MR,AMC, 2FC)
依靠前腰创造机会的阵型。如果能设置“自由人”效果更佳。如果对手对你前腰进行紧逼,让他接不到球的话,你可以设置将球更多分给两翼。

Sweeper/Stopper

A sweeper or stopper can be used in any formation or system but is mainly used for a back three rather than a back four and is mainly used in real life by the Italians. For this type of system to work you need the sweeper to be very good for the level that he is currently playing at. If he is not then it simply will not work how it should and be more of weakness that a strength.
清道夫/盯人中卫442
清道夫或盯人中卫能够在任何阵型中使用,但主要是用在3后卫而不是4后卫阵型中,现实中以意大利为代表。清道夫的要求很高,否则用起来很可能得不偿失。

I've not gone into too much detail about what each system does as I just want to cover the basics in this thread, but further down the line, we will take a more in-depth view of all the formations and really analyze them, but first let’s cover the bread and butter stuff. The stuff that I am about to write is just a starting point for people who want to create tactics but have little knowledge, I'm not saying these instructions are spot on because they might be for someone else but not you. But this is a good reference for a starting point for each position.
以上只是很简单的概括,细节我会以后的帖子里面仔细解释并分析。但这之前我先讲讲各个位置要求的球员属性问题,这对新手来讲尤其有用。


Defence

There are also four main ways to play your fullbacks as well, you can have over lapping fullbacks who are very offensive minded and provide a very attacking option to the team. But the draw back of playing with over lapping fullbacks is your wingers will have a lot of defensive duties to do in a game and you might find you get exposed a few times down the wings when your fullback is out of position. Another way in the flat back formation is to make them mark the opponent's forwards or wingers. These players have to be dependable and willing to give up any kind of offensive play as they will be very defensive minded so don't expect them to contribute on attacks. A third way to get them to work would be to have them work with the wingers (not over lapping though) and get forward to get crosses into the box at every chance possible for your strikers. The fourth way is more of a mixture between attacking and defending, the settings of this specific way really depends on how neutral you want to be, a good idea would to be leave a lot of things normal as that is neutral.
防守
边后卫也有四种主要摆法。第一,可以用边疯(包管边路上下一条龙服务,狂攻型的),但此时你的边前卫就不得不承担很多的防守任务,而且总会有几次被别人偷袭你边疯身后的大空当。第二,四后卫基本平齐,完全不插上,着力对付对方的前锋和前卫,这样的话进攻时就别指望他们出力了。第三,边后卫和边前卫配合进攻,着力于创造传中机会。第四,中庸心态,半攻半守。


Over Lapping fullbacks:

rossing, dribbling, teamwork, stamina, passing, off the ball and fitness. I found that fullbacks with these stats do well indeed. Also look out for the descriptions, I like to use explosive or attacking fullbacks as they are better suited to the job
边疯
传中,带球,团队协作,耐力,传球,无球跑动,和fitness。这些属性高的边后卫会比较适合这个位置。同时也要参考“球员描述”,我觉得“explosive后卫”或者“进攻型边后卫”比较适合这个位置。


Defensive fullbacks:

Work rate, stamina, teamwork, decisions, positioning and acceleration, determination, strength and tackling
防守型边卫
投入程度,耐力,团队协作,果断,防守站位,加速,决心,强壮,铲断

Attacking fullbacks:

Work rate, stamina, teamwork, decisions, positioning and acceleration, determination, strength, crossing and dribbling.
进攻型边卫
投入程度,耐力,团队协作,果断,防守站位,加速,决心,强壮,传中,带球

The Sweeper and Stopper systems are very similar and positional look the exact same, but it's what they do that makes them different. You have the sweeper set to where he'll push up and mop up any balls that the defenders in front of him cannot deal with and does what the name "sweeper" suggest and sweeps up any trouble your front defenders might make. Were as the stopper system uses man marking to either mark a striker or a central midfielder of the opposing team. Plus he is expected to play quick and early balls to your midfield to start early counter attacks.
清道夫和盯人中卫的站位是一样的,两者区别在于球员的具体设置。清道夫是会前压并扫清他身前的后卫没断掉的球,说白点,后卫的任何失误清道夫都要来补救,他是个自由人,到处跑查漏补缺。而盯人中卫的任务就是盯死对方的一个前锋或者一个中前卫,同时断球后快速大脚发动反击。

Sweeper System:
The sweeper should have a good understanding of the game and be a leader on the field. He controls the defence, always staying behind the fullbacks. For this to work you need a sweeper who as high concentration, decisions, influence, positioning, team work, tackling and a little bit of pace wouldn't go a miss too. If you can't find a player with the right stats then I suggest you don't play the sweeper system as put the wrong player as the sweeper and you may get crucified, but get the right player here and you can have a very solid back 4.
清道夫系统
清道夫对比赛的理解能力要强,也是后防领袖。他在后卫身后指挥防守。属性方面,集中力,果断,影响力,防守站位,团队协作,铲断,最好还有点速度。如果你有这样的球员,恭喜你,你的防线从此无忧了。如果你没有,建议你还是别用清道夫,我不想看见你自己把自己给钉死。


Stopper System: The stopper is responsible for marking the centre forward or centre midfielder of the other team. He also has an important offensive part of distributing the ball to the midfielders so you need a player who is good at passing, decisions, anticipation, decisions, tackling, concentration, work rate, positioning and a good first touch can help too.
盯人中卫系统
盯人中卫是来盯死对方前锋或者中场的。由于要求他断球后立刻传给中场发起反击,属性方面传球、果断、预见力、铲断,集中力,投入程度,防守选位和停球(First touch,“第一下”的意思)。

Midfield

The midfield of a 442 formation can be very variable indeed; you can play a flat four midfielders which is very stable and safe. You can use two wingers, one attacking midfielder and one defensive midfielder which are a common thing on Football Manager to do. Or instead of using two wingers you can bring them in to the middle of the pitch so you have two central midfielders. This way makes you a lot narrower but is good if you have very attacking fullbacks who like to venture forward. You can also use two wingers and two defensive midfielders if you wanted to as well. There are also lots of other ways like using a flat three midfielders with one defensive midfielder behind them but if I try to describe every variation I would be here all day.
中场
442的中场设置简直千变万化。平行站位安全稳固。很多人喜欢两边锋,一前腰一后腰。也有人把两个边前卫移到中路,给他们NB的进攻型边后卫自由发挥的空间。也有人用两边锋搭配双后腰。也有人用ML,MR,MC,DMC的。说一天都说不完。

Left/Right wingers:They are in charge for the crosses in the offence, and they usually carry the ball up the field, since they have more room than the centre midfielders. For wingers you need players with some of these stats crossing, creativity, dribbling, pace, acceleration, tackling, balance, technique, passing, finishing, long shots, teamwork, work rate and off ball. Not all of these are vital but some are. I have already explained in another thread what the vital and not so vital stats are.
左右边前卫:他俩的任务是传中和带球到前场(因为边路空间比中路大啊)。因此传中,创造力,带球,速度,加速,铲断,平衡,技术,传球,射门,远射,团队协作,投入程度和无球跑动都重要。我早已在别的帖子里面具体说明了这其中哪几个是最重要的。(在哪?)

Left/Right Centre midfielders: Distribute the ball the best they can to start quick attacks and try to stop or slow down opposing plays before they get to the defensive line. Good passing, decent tackling, work rate, team work, stamina, heading can be quite good and decent concentration are all important if you want them to be alert for 90 minutes.
中前卫:他们的任务是分球发动快攻和阻截对方中场。因此传球,铲断,投入程度,团队协作,耐力,头球,集中力都很重要,毕竟他们要90分钟都保持警惕。

Attacking Midfielders: These guys are the links between midfield and strikers and play in a very important position of the pitch. The ball is often there to be won in the last third of the pitch, so ideally you want an all round player a bit like a DMC. Some of the stats he needs are creativity, passing, off ball, technique, finishing, work rate, stamina, teamwork, flair, long shots, pace, acceleration.
前腰:前锋和中场间的转换枢纽。如果他赢得球权,往往就直接面对后卫线,如果他像个后腰一样能跑能抢,那他就NB了。重要属性是创造力,传球,无球跑,技术,射门,投入程度,耐力,团队协作,天赋,远射,速度,加速。
Defensive Midfielders: The defensive midfields are key players for breaking up play and beginning attacks. Some of the stats needed are tackling, strength, aggression, marking, stamina, work rate, teamwork, pace, passing, acceleration, determination, concentration and creativity.
后腰:后腰不仅是重要的防守球员,也是发动反击的第一环。重要属性是铲断,强壮,侵略性,盯人,耐力,投入程度,团队合作,速度,传球,加速,决心,集中和创造力。

Strikers

As for the strikers in a 442 formation you can't really do much with them as there are only two of them. So you can play two fast strikers, two big strong strikers or one of each. In these very basic formations, the forwards do no special work. Runs to the corners need to be only occasional, and dropping back to the midfield shouldn't be the primary way of getting the ball, this position is actually self explanatory.

前锋
442的前锋没什么很多可说的,你怎么排他也还是两个人。可以一高一快,双快或者双高。只是偶尔要一个前锋拉边传中。后撤到中场拿球?那还是前锋吗!

Striker: They are here to score the majority of your goals, remember though, not both strikers will be prolific it usually tends to be just one out of the two who scores the most goals. A few stats to look for are pace, technique, acceleration, dribbling, long shots, finishing and off ball.
前锋:场上的进球主力。注意不大可能两个前锋都很高产,一般其中某一个会包办大部分进球。速度,技术,加速,带球,远射,射门和无球跑比较重要。

Target man:You will need this play to keep hold of the ball and bring others into play and feed balls through to the slower striker. A few of the stats needed for this player type are strength, jumping, balance, agility, aggression, heading, anticipation and bravery.-------Cleon
站桩中锋(桥头堡):他的任务是拿住球,等待并传给后插上的射手。强壮,弹跳,平衡,敏捷,侵略性,头球,预见性和勇敢都很重要。

老丁 发表于 2007-11-16 22:19

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原帖由 1219241 于 2007-11-15 9:16:00 发表
有两句话不明白1.Good Strikers with poor pace you can mark tightly
2.DC marking a pacey forward in a 2 man attack: never close down and always tight marking
这不就是说,速度快和曼都要贴身???

还有要......


应该是都可以贴身,只针对对方有威胁的前锋,那些烂前锋管他们干嘛呢?
边路球员放弱势脚是针对那些特别擅长某一只脚另一只却很差的,让他们到中路打飞机好了……

lifemelody 发表于 2007-11-17 00:02

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再翻一下倒数第二楼

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++Understanding football formations+++
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理解阵型

As managers are unable to get on the field themselves, the formation is a vital way for them to enforce their vision on the players. The type of formation selected by the manager reflects the sort of football you can
expect them to play, so understanding what the most commonly used formations signify is key to understanding football.
作为主教练,你不能亲自上场比赛,阵型就是你表达自己战术理念的重要方式。阵型能反映出主教练的战术意图,所以了解各种常用阵型是了解足球的第一步。


4-4-2 Formation
442阵型

The most common and adaptable formation in modern football, the weakness of 4-4-2 is the gaps between the central defenders,midfielders and the strikers. As such, a huge burden is placed on the central midfield to augment defense and attack.
442是现代足球最常用和灵活的一种阵型,其弱点在于前锋、中场、中卫三条线在球场中路的空当。因此中路的两个中场球员必须挑起比平常更多的攻防重担。

Precisely because of this all-round contribution, the wings play a vitalrole in spurring on attacks and supporting the strikers. This was evident in the approach of Manchester United and Arsenal during the late 1990s and early 2000s. The former utilised David Beckham and Gary Neville’s ability to deliver crosses from deep positions (as well as Beckham’s abilities from set-pieces), while the latter relied heavily on the goalscoring contributions both of right-winger Freddie Ljungberg and left-winger Robert Pires.
也正因此,此阵型中的主要进攻发起点在两翼。典型的例子是90年代后期和本世纪前期的曼联与阿森纳。前者有贝克汉姆和加里内维尔德的45度角传中(当然还有贝克汉姆的任意球),后者有永贝里和皮雷德插上射门得分。

However, the two sides’ contrasting attitudes in central midfield reflects the subtle variations in the 4-4-2. Whereas Manchester United’s first-choice midfield of Paul Scholes and Roy Keane married a powerful but diminutive mixture of a goal-scoring attacking midfielder and a box-to-box tough-tackler, Arsenal emphasised a tall, powerful combination with their own tough-tackling box-to-box midfielder, Patrick Vieira, and a strict holding midfielder in Gilberto Silva.
这两个队伍的中场中路的差别反映了两个442的不同。曼联的中场主力是斯科尔斯和基恩,一个得分中场,一个防守悍将。阿森纳的中场主力维埃拉和吉尔伯托西尔瓦,都是又高又壮的防守中场。

4-5-1 Formation
451阵型

A formation which has grown in popularity in recent times, the 4-5-1 is fundamentally defensive, but can be tweaked to provide more of an offensive threat. The essential qualities of the 4-5-1 are a three-man central midfield and a lone striker, typically a target man. By packing the midfield, a technically strong passing side will come unstuck and provide opportunities for counter-attacking football. When on the attack, the 4-5-1 is heavily dependent on the wingers supporting the lone striker.
451最近正在变得十分流行。451原意是强调防守,但通过调整也能偏向进攻。其精华在于中路的3人中场组合和单前锋(常常是站桩中锋)。它传球精准的技术型中场能有效控制中路并发动反击。进攻时,此阵型也主要靠边路进攻在支援那孤独的单前锋。

Perhaps the best illustration of 4-5-1 in full flow is Jose Mourinho’s system. Both as manager of FC Porto and Chelsea, Mourinho founded his sides on strong defensive line-ups and an excellent holding midfielder, while the attack relied on a hard-working front man and a goal-scorer in midfield. At Chelsea, his defensive stalwarts were the captain and central defender John Terry and the holding midfielder Claude Makélélé. Alongside the Frenchman, Frank Lampard provided the bulk of goals from central midfield, ably supported by Joe Cole and Arjen Robben on the wings and Didier Drogba’s efforts up front. The side was extremely successful, picking up back-to-back Premiership titles in 2005 and 2006,building on Mourinho’s previous achievement at Porto in winning the 2004 Champions League trophy.
最有代表性的451来自穆里尼奥。不管是波尔图还是切尔西,这位老兄的队伍都拥有强大的后防和杰出的控制型中场,进攻则主要靠一个蓝领前锋和一个进球能力强的中场。在切尔西,他的防守核心是队长中卫特里和后腰马克莱莱。法国人身旁,有一个能进球的兰帕德。加上两翼的乔科尔和罗本,和吃苦耐劳的德罗巴。这个阵型非常成功,夺得05年和06年的英超冠军,当然别忘了04年波尔图的冠军杯冠军。

4-3-3
433阵型

In some ways, the 4-3-3 is covered in the description of the 4-5-1.However, whereas the 4-5-1 starts with the wingers supporting the central midfielders, the 4-3-3 encourages the wingers to act as true forwards and the formation generally emphasises attack more than defense.

可以说433和451的区别不是太大。451的两个边前卫主要和中路的中场配合,而433的两个边锋更多像个真正的前锋,而且整体上强调进攻多于防守。

This theory was put into action by Frank Rijkaard as manager of Barcelona. Faced with the problem of how to accommodate Ronaldinho,Samuel Eto’o and Lionel Messi, as well as a host of central midfielders,Rijkaard adopted a 4-3-3. The triangle up front of the aforementioned players was supported by a creative and defensive midfield backbone of the playmaker Xavi, the holding midfielder Edmilson and either Andrés Iniesta or Thiago Motta as an all-rounder. The side was hugely successful, picking up back-to-back La Liga titles in 2005 and 2006 and the Champions League trophy in 2006.
没错,就是巴塞罗那。里杰卡尔德面临的问题是如何把小罗、艾托奥和梅西还有一大堆中场给有效捏合起来,他只有一个选择就是433。前面的进攻三角被充满创造力的防守型中场支撑了起来。组织核心哈维,善于控球的埃德米尔森,还有满场飞奔的伊涅斯塔和莫塔。这支队伍不可思议的连夺05、06年西甲冠军和06年冠军杯冠军。

The ‘Diamond Formation’ (4-3-1-2)
菱形中场4312

The diamond in the formation refers to the midfield, with an attacking midfielder and a holding midfielder employed and flanked by two wingers, who move in-field slightly to shore up the gaps in the centre. To cover
for the lack of width in the side, the full-backs become wingbacks and start slightly higher up the pitch.
这里“菱形”指的是中场,一个前腰和一个持球中场,加上两个边前卫(稍微靠中间以弥补中路的空当)组成。为了保证进攻的宽度,两个边后卫在站位上会比较靠前(就是wing-back)。

The diamond formation is typically associated with the World Cup-winning English national team in 1966, christened the ‘wingless wonders’. In recent times though, the employment of the diamond usually revolves around a single player. The Argentinian national side in the 2006 World Cup held an extremely fluid diamond formation which gave Juan Roman Riquelme space to instigate attacks, while AC Milan under Carlo Ancelotti in 2004 used the diamond to assist the Brazilian playmaker Kaká.
1966年英格兰靠这一阵型赢得了世界杯,号称“无翼奇迹”。现代足球中,它渐渐变成了一种全队为前腰服务的阵型。以2006年世界杯上的阿根廷为例,全队围绕着里克尔梅打出了流畅的进攻。04年的AC米兰为了发挥卡卡的威力也使用了这一阵型。


5-3-2 Formation
532阵型

In theory, the 5-3-2 is a purely defensive-minded line-up. The three central defenders provide extra resoluteness, while the three in midfield are all located around the centre circle. There is also a notable gap between midfield and attack, and the wing-play is the sole responsibility of the fullbacks.
532是传统意义上的纯防守阵型。三中卫的防守牢不可破,三中场也主要围绕中圈弧一带活动。这一阵型前锋和中场间的距离也非常大,边后卫的助攻几乎成为了进球的唯一方式。

However, the most famous modern practitioners of this system, the 1990s West German national side, were no slouches in front of goal. On their way to the World Cup in 1990, they scored an exceptional 15 goals, with
the midfielder Lothar Matthäus notching 4 on his own. As a result, the 5-3-2 is something of a tactical enigma, though rarely seen today.
但是,1990年的西德使用这一阵型居然在世界杯上取得了惊人的15粒进球,其中中场马特乌斯就有4球在手。今天532已经极为罕见,渐渐成为了一个谜一般的存在。

4-4-1-1 Formation
4411阵型It is a simple variation of 4-4-2 formation in which the second attacker plays just behind the main striker but ahead of the midfield.If a player plays ahead of the midfield but behind the striker, it causes problems for the opposition because they find it hard to mark them.
4411是442的一个变种,撤回一个前锋,让其在中场和前锋线间自由游弋。目的在于让对方的后卫难以盯人防守。

The midfield already has four midfielders to mark and if a opposing defender takes up the job, he will get pulled out of defence.This formation allows a creative player a bit more freedom to operate. He has more options, to pass short or long, dribble, cut wide or bear down on goal.If he fails to create an opening for himself, more often than not he will create goal scoring chances for others.And the added advantage is that, if he creates something further forward, he can arrive late in the box to join the attack.
如果对方的后卫使用盯人防守,他会被这个前锋拉出本方的防线。可以说这是一个自由前锋。他被允许任意行动,短传或长传,带球,拉边,插上射门等等。如果他自己无法找到机会,他也可以为其它人创造机会。另外,他的外围插上进攻或者争抢第二点也是犀利的武器。

4-3-2-1 Christmas Tree
4321圣诞树阵型

This is another variation of the 4-4-2,
这也是个442的变种(下面被版主删了,原文也没有,可能版主讨厌AC米兰……)

3-4-3
343阵型

3-4-3 is a classic formation, considered offensive by today's standards. In this system, one striker must consistently stay on the tip of the attack.He therefore should be able to hold his ground. In defense, the three fullbacks must work together as a unit.
在今人看来,343是经典的攻击阵型。在此阵型中,中锋固定在中路牵制对方,因此要求其护球能力超强。3后卫间也要求配合默契。

At least one midfielder needs to drop back and play in front of defensive line. His job is to constantly pressure the ball so that the defense is never caught in a compromising position.
最少1个中场要求后撤时刻保护后卫线,以免后卫线面临大的危险。

lifemelody 发表于 2007-11-17 00:44

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倒着来

What is ingame tweaking ?
什么是阵中调整?(可见老外有多傻)

In game tweaking refers to making small changes to your tactic during a game.
阵中调整的意思是在比赛过程中对战术进行微调。(老外是在太2了)

Tweak only when necessary here are some examples.

You go a goal behind
Opposition getting too much space
A forced injury
A substitution
You see something worrying
Your style just isn't working
只在下列情况调整才有必要:
你一球落后
你给对手的空间太大了
球员受伤
换人
你发现了某个潜在危险
你原来的阵型完全不管用
(实在是太2了,超2)

These are the most common things I look out for, and is one of the main factors before I tweak something. If something is working and my tactic is doing what I think is good, then I won't change anything. I don't tweak just for the sake of it, I only tweak if its needed. If I am being really dominant in a game, its very rare that I ever change anything, after all I am being dominant. So I must be doing something right?
如果我的战术执行的很好,场面也不错,我是绝对不会调整战术的。因为要是我场面占优,说明我战术对路啊。

Before you play your next fixture its quite possible to tweak a few things here and there, before you enter the game to give you what should be a slight advantage hopefully. How I determine what I tweak before a game depends on my scout report on the next opposition says. Most of it is really common knowledge and nothing no-one shouldn't be able to work out by reading what it says. Its nothing too complex or anything and in most cases, really easy to determine what needs to be done. For example my next game is against Newcastle and my scout said
在进入下一场比赛之前对战术进行调整是有效的。最重要的依据就是球探针对对手的报告。事实上弄起来也十分简单,比如下一场我要和纽卡斯尔对战,我的球探说

' Newcastle play a defensive 442 and like a quick direct style to hit teams on the break'.
Now this tells me I can play quite attacking against them, as they tend to sit deep and hit me on the counter attack. So as long as I don't over commit on the attacking front, I should have quite a few shots if I can break
them down. Another thing I can do is play a short slow tempo game and try and limit the possession Newcastle have, because they play on the counter and rather direct, I should dominate possession in this game as at times they will give the ball away. So by playing short and slow I will be making them play a style which does not suit them at this time.
“Newcastle打得是防守型442,而且喜欢打反击”
这句话告诉我们,既然他要守,我就可以放心进攻了。只要我不要点太背,我会有很多的射门机会。另外一个要点是,我要用一个慢节奏的短传打法,这样能对手摸不到球。而且他主要打直传反击,我一定要争取控球权阻止他这种无耻的打法。因此设定“短传”和“慢节奏”,强迫他打他不习惯的节奏。

I will probably drop my defensive line slightly too, as i know they got fast strikers just by looking at their probable line up. So I don't want my defence to play too high or they might get caught out here, especially as my defenders lack pace. As you can see, I can change quite a few things here, it might seem a lot of messing about, but really its not. All this should take no longer than 30 seconds to change, it sounds harder than it actually is. Newcastle line up against me defensive as I am one of the better sides in the league now, but you get the drift about what I mean with scout reports hopefully? One more thing I should add, is that if my defenders have good man marking attributes then it might be worth while man marking their fast striker who is likely to cause me trouble, I find this helps keep them at bay most games.(Cleon)
同时我倾向把防线稍微后撤,因为球探告诉我对方前锋速度很快,如果我的防线压的太上,特别如果我的后卫很慢,万一被马丁斯打个反击……,我不要啊!
看到了吧,30秒之内你就能做出足够的调整了。当然如果你的队伍比纽卡NB很多,你可以忽略我说的话。但另外还有一点我必须补充的,如果我的后卫盯人特别好,我会派他盯死对方速度快的前锋,这真的特别有效!想想你的对手走投无路只有对你胡乱犯规最后红牌下场的场景吧,哈哈。(Cleon)

*If you are faced with a 424, you can make small tweaks like manmarking their wingers
Or if there is a creative force in midfield, you can close him down and tackle hard
*如果对手搞424,你可以对他的边锋“盯人”。
如果对手有个创造力强的中场,你可以对他“经常逼抢”和“凶横铲断”

p8588 发表于 2007-11-17 21:17

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:default5: 无比强悍的好帖
巨赞!

sxrong 发表于 2007-11-17 23:12

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不顶不行啊   学习中颇有心得

allenwrench 发表于 2007-11-18 18:07

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知识就是第一生产力呀
长见识了

人口贩子 发表于 2007-11-19 02:12

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:default9:

人才啊!

看来足球不仅仅是运动无国界啦!

21世纪什么最贵?

荷戟卒 发表于 2007-11-19 21:45

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好贴啊好贴,收藏了细心揣摩、

hins0010 发表于 2007-11-19 22:07

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这帖能不顶吗??!!~~已经转到FMCM。。希望别见怪!!已标明:作者和出处。

fjzplwm 发表于 2007-11-19 22:42

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好贴!学习了!

沸腾的内裤 发表于 2007-11-20 13:17

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:JLH2:

学习,不断的学习,进步,永不止步……
积极的思考结合实践的检验出真知,用其指导行动……
分析再总结,不断前进……

Thx!
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