007关于控球打法的讨论 转载
本帖最后由 deathfly 于 2013-4-21 16:38 编辑今日闲来无事，看到007关于控球打法的讨论，不知道是否有大神翻译过，虽然小弟不是控球打法粉，不过看看也觉收益良多，因此翻译了一下，请大家参考指正。由于没有玩过中文版，里面有些翻译不太准确请各位大大海涵。
另付原帖地址：http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2013-tactical-discussion/106425-fm13-possession-tactic-discussion-thread-raikan007-18-print.html
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------As many of you are intrigued by possession based tactics I thought I would start this thread so that we could discuss possession tactics and how to go about creating them for yourself without having to download anyone else's Some people make specific Barca tactics for Barca only but possession is not all about replicating Barca or making a tactic that resembles their formation etc, its about retaining possession and creating scoring chances:
很多人对于控球战术感到非常好奇，我想我应该开始这条线索，这样大家能就控球战术进行讨论，也可以不通过下载被人的战术创造自己的战术。有些朋友为巴萨创造了一个只适合游戏中巴萨的战术，但是控球并不仅仅是重复巴萨或者做出一个类似于巴萨的阵型。控球是关于控制球权并制造得分良机。
The four part system consists of the following components which are being integrated at the moment:
四部分组成的系统包含以下几个因素：
1. Possession (not adamant on getting 1 player over 100 passes, the more passers of the ball the better)
控球（并不是说要让一名球员拥有超过100脚的传球，而是更多地球员更多地传递更好）
2. Creating CCC's (clear cut chances) while remaining in possession of the ball
在控球的时候，创造CCC’s（绝对的机会，也可以叫致命的机会）
3. Operating defensively while incorporating points 1&2
结合第一点和第二点来完成防守
4. Playing in the opponents half
在对方半场比赛
In this thread we will look at player roles, formations, team instructions, opposition formations, home or away, pitch dimensions, touchline shouts and many many more factors that influence possession tactics
根据这些线索我们来设定球员的任务，阵型，球队指令，反击阵型，主客场，场地大小，临阵指挥（喊叫）和很多很多影响控球战术的因素。
Please note, this is not a thread for anyone to post and show off their possession stats, feel free to post them please but this is not to promote your tactic or show off it is a discussion thread and if you would like feedback from myself or anyone else, feel free to post anything you would like advice or assistance on this is also not a competition to see who has the most passes as passes are extremely easy to get, its what you do with possession that counts
请记住，本帖的目的不在于让你炫耀你的控球结果，你可以随便把控球结果贴上来，但是本帖并不是让你推销你的战术或者炫耀。本帖是一个启发讨论，如果你希望得到我的或者任何人的反馈，请你打消任何顾虑把你想贴上来的发出来吧，比方说建议或者帮助。另外，本帖不是一个比赛谁的传球数多的竞技场，而是你怎样去控球。
Things to keep in mind when creating possession tactics:
创造控球战术时，时刻要记住的事
you dont always have to play extremely narrow and slow, the wider and quicker you play, depending on formation and the players you have will increase passes and possession
你不需要总是踢得很窄，很慢，宽度和节奏取决于阵型和增加传球的数量和控球。
• you dont have to have a primary playmaker or target man selected with ball to feet, possession is about team possession, not single players passes
• full backs are always going to be involved no matter what you do! the best is to take advantage of them and use them correctly, I have them set to hold up ball, this helps in retaining possession and not giving it away cheaply
你不必须要选择进攻核心或者把球传到站桩中锋（Target man）的脚下，控球是关于全队控球，并不是某个球员的传球数
不管你做什么，后卫总是要参与到控球的。最好的做法是利用好，用正确的方式发挥后卫。我设置后卫控制球（hold up
ball），这样可以帮助控球以及不让后卫随便处理球。
• PPM's play a major role in players performing certain tasks during the game, if a player has run with ball often, shoots from distance, switches ball to other flanks, these go against possession tactics and should be avoided, PPM's like: plays one two's, dictates tempo, comes deep, looks for pass rather than shot, simple passes, tries killer balls, moves into channels are all very good to have for your players
• 球员习惯在比赛中球员完成任务的表现方面扮演了重要的角色。如果一名球员有带球、远射、转移球到另一边的习惯，那这些习惯都与控球战术格格不入，而且是应该避免的。拥有一些习惯像：二过一、控制节奏、回撤拿球、更喜欢传球（相对射门）、短传、传威胁球、跑空挡的球员对控球战术非常有帮助。
• getting passess are easy, you will have to start by getting the possession and that will start from the back like normal, your cb's, keeper and fb's will have the most passes etc, dont worry about that, tweak the formation and instructions as you go to get the ball further up the field, you want to have possession but in their half, not your own as you will not create any chances, the SS below is how it is going to start, as I said, getting the ball higher up in the opponents half is one of the main objectives:
很多的传球是容易的，你必须从获取控球权开始，控球权往往开始于后场，比方说你的中后卫、守门员和边后卫会是传球最多的人等等。这一点，你完全没有必要担心，你可以调整阵型和给球员向前传球的指令。你想要在对方半场获得控球而不是在你自己的半场，在本方半场控球不会帮助你创造机会。你可以看下图的前锋，这是控球如何开始的，就像我说过的，一个主要任务就是球踢在对方半场更靠前的区域。
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/199855d1319724233-short-sweet%99-d.c.-united-v-barcelona-analysis_-analysis-.png
• getting your main players involved like Messi for eg: alot of possession *Barca* tactics I have seen barely have Messi involved at all, 12 passes max a game, try and get each player to have similar amounts of passes, not just one and neglecting the othersthe more passers of the ball the better
• dont feel as though you need to get the striker/s involved with the build up play, in order to score goals they need to be the focal point of your attack and should be made to hold up the ball or involved to heavily in build up play
• pass and move is the foundation of possession, so this means, playing through balls sometimes and run from deep should be used for your mids/attackers! instead of running with the ball they need to create space by running off it into spaces and channels. This needs to be played around with to find the correct balance for your players and your team
• you dont have to focus passing through the middle either, using the whole pitch creates more space and passing options!
• when it comes to the passing slider, imagine a circle around the player, 1 click being for eg: 1m passes, the further the slider goes the further and more direct the passes will become!
让你的主要的球员像梅西一样参与到战术中，举个例子，我观察了几乎所有有关梅西的“巴萨”战术，发现一场比赛最多12脚传球（译者：我不知道是作者写错了还是看错了，我想梅西应该没有这么少的传球数吧，要不就是我没看懂）。努力试着让你的每个球员都有相近的传球数，而不是只有一名球员传球忽视其他球员。传球数越多越好。
• 不要感觉，虽然你需要你的前锋参与到中后场组织中去，为了能够更多的进球，前锋们应该是你进攻的焦点，并且应该控制住球或者大量的参与到中后场组织中。（这一段不是太明白，请高手指正）
• 传球和跑动是控球的基础，这就意味着身后球和后撤拿球应该用在你的中场和攻击球员上。不同于带球，他们需要跑空挡来创造出空间。这需要为你的球员和球队找到正确的平衡。
• 你并不必须选择通过中场传球，运用整个场地来创造更多的空间和传球的选择。
• 当设置传球滑块的时候，想象有一个圆围绕着你的球员，一点为举例一米范围的传球，那滑块越远传球就更直接，更长传。（个人认为作者在一块的描述太冗赘，其实就是越往右长传越多就是了）。
• all players involved in the triangles or passing sphere should have move into channels and even roam from position on to create open spaces to receive the pass, do not use this for central defenders, fullbacks can also be given this option, but be aware of the consequences on defence!
• 所有参与到三角传递或者传球的队员都应该更多的跑空挡并主动地找自己的位置，以便创造开放的空间接球。不要将中后卫如此设置，边后卫可以选择这样的设置，但是要警惕如此设置带来的防守后果。
• goalkeeper distribution should be defender collect and your best passing defender as the receiver
• 门将的传球应该传向传球最好的后卫。
• of course no long shots should be given and run with ball should also be used lightly/sparingly
• 当然，不要让球员远射，带球也应该设置为少/尽量少
• full backs should be set to support or attack, imagine support being in line with the Dm position and attack being in line with the Cm position, this will be the position of your fullbacks. (get what I am saying)
• 边后卫应该设置成支援或进攻(support or attack)，想象一下边后卫支援到防守型中场(DM)的位置，和进攻上到中场(CM)的位置，这应该是你的边后卫的位置。
• In order to create more chances, you have to be prepared to sacrifice some possession in order to get the ball in the box for someone to bury it, this is important to understand and accept, it is easy racking up passes but the hard part is converting the possession into goals!
• 为了能够创造更多的机会，你必须准备牺牲一些控球，以便把球传到禁区为某些球员射门。这一点非常重要，也是一定要理解的。在传球榜上名列前茅是简单的，难点在于如何把控球传化成进球。
• Possession tactics take a while longer to gel with your team, allow for at least 20 games for your team to become accustomed to the tactic
• 控球战术需要多花些时间将你的球队凝聚成一个整体，要允许你的球队通过20长的比赛来习惯你的战术。
• The more passes the player does and the more successful they are increase his average rating! I have tested it countless times, players with over 80 passes and a pass percentage of 87% plus will always be over 7 regardless!
• 传球数越多，球员的平均得分提升越多。我测试了无数次，球员超过80脚传球，传球成功率在87%以上，这名球员的得分不管怎样永远在7分以上。
• Playing a very high defensive line is important, you want to peg the opponents in their own half as that is where you should be wanting to play the ball! at least 3/4 of the way up is a good start!
• 防守线高是非常重要的。你想把对方钉在对方的自己的半场，你应该希望四分之三的球这么踢，那么提升防守线是个很好的开端。
• Some possession tactics use a deep line.. it all just depends on your players and the instructions you give them! try different things out and see the results..
• 一些控球战术使用很深的防线，这都取决于你的球员和你给他们的指令。试一试不同的事情然后看看结果。
• With a high defensive line you dont have to play the offside trap, as most of the time your cb's will be sitting on the halfway line, neither do you have to play counter attack as it is not that effective playing with a high line! the deeper you are the better it is playing on the counter and quickly/directly as well!
• 高防线的情况下，你不是必须设置造越位，大部分的时间你的中后卫都给在中场线哪里。同样，你不必须设置反击，因为反击打法对于高防线来说不怎么有效。越深的防线，你打反击加快速/直传的效果越好。
• Possession is not all about making "triangles" either, having players move into spaces will create these triangles, not actually trying to create them with the formation (even though I do with the Amc)
• 控球战术并不是全部关于三角传递，让你的球员跑入空挡就会创造三角传递，并不是试图在阵型上创造三角（即使我使用AMC）
• creative freedom is a very important part of creating a good possession tactic! having the player set to defensive with a high creative freedom and setting all player instructions to NEVER results in high amount of passes! but this should be tested and implemented sparingly... should be used sparingly as for one, it will counter the personal and team instructions you have given! this however should not be set to 0 as it also has a part to play with free role's as it allows the player to move around more freely as well! so use it wisely for the players that will be the main area of your passing!
• 给与自由度是创造好的控球战术中非常重要的部分！设置一名球员防守心态加上高自由度和设置所有球员严格无自由度，传球数有很大的差别。但是这一点应该测试以及很少实施，应该只用于一名球员，这会与你给与的个人和全队只是相反。然后，这一项也不该设置为0，因为允许你的球员更自由的跑动，球员也应有一定的自由度。因此，为你的球员明智的使用这个设置是影响你传球数的主要方面。
• Time wasting is also important, I use it sometimes, the more you use of it the more your players will hold onto the ball, this will actually prevent passes being made and instead of going forward they players will most of the time play it backwards which is not what you want! so keep that in mind! As well as it being counter productive, it also can be detrimental as players can be caught in possession easily and the opposition can create easy chances!
• 消耗时间同样重要。我有时候用浪费时间，你浪费时间越多，你的球员就更多的控制住球。实际上，这玩意防止传球以及替代向前。你的球员在大部分时间里会回传，当然这不是你想要的。因此记住这一点。也会适得其反，同样浪费时间也可以是有害的，你的球员可能很容易的丢球，对方可以创造很好的机会。
• Holding up the ball should also be used sparingly, have no more than 3 players holding up the ball, this is due to the fact that instead of playing the quick ball that could create a chance, they hang onto it which allows the opposition to get back into position!
• 也应该很少使用控制住球，不要超过3名球员使用这个选项。因为控制住球替代了快速足球所可能创造的机会。粘球会让你的对手有时间回到防守位置上。
• there is a lot more to say, hit a bit of a blank now, going to update is as I remember etc
• 还有好多要说的，但是一时半会没想起来，等我想起来给大家说。
913 passes, 88% possession, 2 CCC's! the best result I have had to date
913脚传球，88%的控球率，2个绝对机会，我取得的最好的成绩
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/206250d1322550404-short-sweet%99-ajax-v-partizan-analysis_-analysis-.png
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/205280d1322141869-short-sweet%99-santos-v-goi-s-analysis_-analysis-.png
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/201999d1320663645-short-sweet%99-man-utd-v-leeds-analysis_-analysis-.png
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/205298d1322147725-short-sweet%99-santos-v-atl-tico-goianiense-analysis_-analysis-2.png
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/205293d1322146371-short-sweet%99-vasco-v-santos-analysis_-analysis-.png
Suggested team instructions:
全队指令建议
*this is for the classic tactics, this is what I currently use for my teams
给经典战术的建议，也是我现在使用的球队
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attac...tructions-.png
Modern Tactic's Suggested team instructions:
现在战术的全队指令建议
Philosophy: Balanced or Fluid (it does not have to be very fluid, thats a farce)
风格：平衡或流畅（不必须非常流畅，非常流畅就是个闹剧）
Strategy: Control or attacking, attacking works better for me!
比赛策略：控制或者进攻，进攻对我效果更好
(going to update the SS with the modern tactic's suggestions)
playing Zonal marking and pressing will ensure the team will keep its shape, I ensure that tight marking is also selected in player instructions!
使用区域定人和压迫式防守保证球队保持队形。我也在球员指令中用贴身防守。
For closing down (the thing most people have issues with) I have a simple solution that works really well for me, have every player (save for your out and out goalscorer) to close down exactly the same, I have it set to own half but right on the border of whole pitch, this will ensure your team really keep their shape and close down together as a unit and dont get dragged out of position... or you can set the whole team to close down the entire pitch as well!
关于压迫（大部分人都会用这个）我有一个简单地解决方法对我来说非常有效。让你所有球员（除彻头彻尾的射手）都用同样程度的压迫。我设置成除边线外的本方半场。这样可以确保你的球队保持队形并且像一个整体一样同时压迫对手而不被带出自己的位置……或者你可以设置成全队全场压迫。
Having your striker/s set to tight man marking and setting opposition instructions to close down the defenders is also a good part of a possession tactic, this forces the cb's to hoof the ball clear when your strikers are closing them down, and could even make mistakes if their composure stat is rather low!
将你的前锋设置成贴身防守和压迫对方后卫也是控球战术中很好的一部分。这样可以迫使后卫在前锋上前压迫的时候仓促处理球，如果后卫的冷静很低甚至可能犯下低级错误。
Suggested touchline shouts:
*I do not use most of these except hassle, work ball into box when playing modern tactics, the possession tactic I use is made in classic mode and does not use shouts
场边喊话的建议：
除非非常艰难的比赛，我不会用场边喊话，使用现代战术的时候喊将球传到禁区，经典战术不用喊话。
Retain possession
Work ball into box
Pass to feet
Play out of defence
Play through defence
Hassle opponents
Look for overlap (also good)
保持控球
把球打到禁区
少开大脚
通过传球撕开防线
缠住对手
等待套边
Recommended formations:
*I personally use a 433 with two central cm's who drop deep to get the ball and the playmaker Amc with two wingers and a striker
推荐的阵型
我个人使用433，两个中场（CM）回撤拿球，AMC组织核心，两个边锋加一个前锋
This is my formation and instructions I use on my latest possession tactic!
这是我最新使用的控球战术的阵型加上指令
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-tactical-discussion/279685-fm13-possession-tactic-discussion-thread-raikan007-southampton-tactics_-team-instructions-.png
4-3-3 (Amc or Dm)
4-1-2-1-2
4-2-1-2-1
3-3-3-1
3-2-3-1-1
(there are so many different formations out there.. its up to you what works best!
有很多的阵型，完全取决于你，那个更有效
Pitch dimensions:
球场宽度
Well this is up to you, I find that using normal or standard works the best, as mentioned, its not all about playing narrow and on the smallest pitch, please note this plays a large role in possession tactics and should be not be taken lightly.
这个也是取决于你的，我发现使用正常或者标准最好，就像之前提到的，不是说越窄越小就好，请注意，这一项对控球战术起很大作用，请不要掉以轻心。
Opposition Instructions:
*you can leave this to assistant manager but make sure you do the following:
针对性指令:
你可以信任你的助理教练，让他来设定，但是确保以下几点：
Show all strikers, central mids (cm's and am'cs) on to weaker foot and close down
or
所有的前锋，中前卫（MC, AMC）弱侧脚和压迫或者
1) show strikers to weaker feet
2) tight mark wide players and show to weaker foot, hard tackling
3) close down central mids and show to weaker feet
4) close down cb's and show to weaker feet
所有前锋弱侧脚
紧盯边路球员和弱侧脚，凶狠抢断
压迫中场中路(MC)和弱侧脚
压迫中后卫和弱侧脚
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please feel free to ask anything regarding possession tactics here, please feel free to use anything from any of my tactics for your own and I look forward to seeing your progress in creating a great possession tactic
thanks, Neil
如果有问题，请不要顾虑的提出来。 之前做战术学习过原帖，是很有用的东西。感谢楼主翻译 技术贴 顶起 感谢楼主分享,学习一下 感谢技术贴 本帖最后由 pop2006 于 2013-4-22 22:21 编辑
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