周周大叔 发表于 2014-6-11 18:10

base测试第二阶段

dan。。。。 为何如此炫酷。。 不过中午又出现一个4星战术 不过刚刚我看的时候好像又被黑到3星

jobedward 发表于 2014-6-11 20:06

dan战术去掉角球,会下降一个档次
还是jassar,TTF,MrH战术稳定

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-11 20:11

PPP HOME是哪个啊?

IWAS 发表于 2014-6-11 20:36

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-11 20:11 static/image/common/back.gif
PPP HOME是哪个啊?

PPP我用着效果一般啊。。。。

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-11 20:37

IWAS 发表于 2014-6-11 20:36 static/image/common/back.gif
PPP我用着效果一般啊。。。。

谢谢你!:lol

qb_psyche 发表于 2014-6-11 20:49

求分享下那个DEEP433反击

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-11 21:46

这个也是测试吗?
In-depth Tactic comparison thread
Please note that this currently is a work in progress.

ETA will be in 1-2 weeks with preliminary results and statistics.
I will provide links for reference and download to each individual tactic, so you can try and see if the tactics work for you.

Everybody wants a tactic that makes them win 100% of the time and I can honestly say, for sure in FM 2014 that is simply not going to happen. First of all, it wouldn't be realistic and secondly: depending on the team you choose (like in this case with one of my test teams with a media prediction 12th, it is unreal to expect a win against the big teams all the time). Maybe with a team like Barcelona or Manchester City/United you will be able to dominate almost every match and win 95% of them, but that is regardless of which tactics you'll use, that is why I selected a weaker team, where good tactics are needed to achieve something. I also will run the same tests with a team in a different league and a media prediction of 2nd/3rd. Not a European top team, but still, a higher ranked team that actually has a chance of winning the local competition.

I started off with 38 (yes thirty eight!!!) popular and deemed to be "top" tactics for patch 14.3.1, after playing 15 matches with each tactic I will eliminate the bottom 13 tactics, leaving me with 25 tactics.
After another 10 matches, I will eliminate another 10 tactics, leaving me with the top 15.

I have created spreadsheets and am gathering and analysing the most important stats on each game I played with every tactic, and will end my analyses after playing a lot of games with each one of them with the exact same team. I also created a comparison spreadsheet that will compare all statistics in one overview.
That way you can select and sort the tactics by your own preference. For example if you are looking for a high possession tactic and want to see which one performed best, you can easily select that.
Or maybe you are looking for a counter attacking style, it's all easy to see and compare.
It is a work in progress but I'm pretty happy about how it looks like now already.
Currently I'm hallway phase 1, so I played 8 full matches with all 38 tactics.

Not sure if anything like that already exists, but I created a "shot on goal ratio" in the comparison spreadsheet.
This will show you how many shots on goal my team with the tactic had compared to the opposition on average. (a ratio of 2.3 for example would mean that you have 2.3 shots on goal for every 1 shot your opponent has). I think this will be valuable as you want to make sure you are getting your shots in as much as possible, while limiting your opponents chances.

I also will measure a "CCC ratio", which will compare how many CCC you get relatively to the opposition.

In my testing so far I noticed this is a great way of "cutting out" underperforming tactics.

The postings on different websites for the tactics will be included in this so you can read the authors notes and recommendations regarding the tactic.
Every tactic has its own strengths and weaknesses and even though a particular tactic might have been ""build around a certain team" I wanted to make a fair comparison between the tactics I tested for this purpose. When you play 20+ time the same match over and over again with each time a different tactic it showed me very easily which tactic is showing consistent results. Some tactics show consistently higher possession stats, other ones more CCC etc. Which tactic is good for you all depends on your personal preference and the team you have chosen.
You might say "luck also comes into play which of course is true, football is not an exact science and even though you dominate and have the best chances, it happens that you still draw or even lose the match. That is why I have played 20+ games with each of the tactics, just to get the "luck factor" (or "bad luck factor") out of play.
So what is a good tactic?? For me, but that is just me, I prefer to lose a game with 0-1, after completely outplaying the opponent and having 8-1 balls on goal, 4-1 CCC etc. My board probably would still be unhappy, but if these stats would be there, it shows the tactic is working well.


The 38 tactics that are currently being tested: (in alphabetical order):

(fluid)Tx4 - by kun (14.3.1)
(rigid)Tx4 - by kun (14.3.1)
343 Killer by Veez v3
4-4-2 back to basic by andrichbrand
ABCD 10
ABCD 10 Awesome Sauce Tweak by Mr L (14.3.1)
Antonio Conte 3-5-2 by ARTISAN
ART OF FOOTBALL v2
Arturo
Arturo SPII
BagdadCowboy 2.0 SP
BagdadCowboy 2.0 SP v2
Bluth's MPLS Attack
Bluth's MPLS Counter with OI
Callamity 14.3.1
Danilo (original)
Danilo Tight
Danilo's Incinerator
Deep 343 Counter by Veez (Final)
eXtreme Domination tiki taka
FAKE TIKI TAKA 14.3
Fetish
Mr Hough Bring CM Punk Back FM14.3.1 Tactic
Mr Langvatn 6-1-3 Stonewall Gung Ho Special Edition(14.3.1)
Mr Langvatn 6-2-2 Stonewall Attack V3 (14.3.1)
Mr Langvatn 6-2-2 Stonewall Counter V4 (14.3.1)
Pep's Bayern
PIRANHA 2014 14.3
PIRANHA 2014 14.3 v2
PPP 14.3.1
Rodrigo4073 Devi Inspiration v1.0
Rainmaker v5
Steatons Invincible 4-2-3-1 tweaked
Steatons Total Annihilation v2
Tellak's Tiki-Taka Tactic for FM14
TFF_Perfection _V1
TFF_UNREAL_V1
v4 Near Perfect 4231 by andrichbrand


I am not the creator of any of these tactics, I am merely a tester who has already spent many, many hours in testing in real-time (no simulated or "instant results" games) all of these tactics.

It is impossible to test every single tactic out there, there must be hundreds out there and every creator feels his/hers is the best.
In my choices I have reviewed all feedback the users gave to determine if the tactic would be good enough to be included.

Updates to follow within a week!

周周大叔 发表于 2014-6-11 22:55

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-11 21:46 static/image/common/back.gif
这个也是测试吗?
In-depth Tactic comparison thread
Please note that this currently is a work in pr ...

应该也是 21世纪和mrl的测试都比较可靠

周周大叔 发表于 2014-6-11 22:56

qb_psyche 发表于 2014-6-11 20:49 static/image/common/back.gif
求分享下那个DEEP433反击

那是个无锋战术 你确定要吗

qb_psyche 发表于 2014-6-11 23:43

周周大叔 发表于 2014-6-11 22:56 static/image/common/back.gif
那是个无锋战术 你确定要吗

只是很好奇是什么站位和战术设置,无锋的话估计真是摆三后腰大巴了……

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-12 10:49

周周大叔 发表于 2014-6-11 22:56 static/image/common/back.gif
那是个无锋战术 你确定要吗

这俩个战术有吗?

(fluid)Tx4 - by kun (14.3.1)
(rigid)Tx4 - by kun (14.3.1)

周周大叔 发表于 2014-6-12 16:14

1128leon 发表于 2014-6-12 10:49 static/image/common/back.gif
这俩个战术有吗?

(fluid)Tx4 - by kun (14.3.1)


没有 不太喜欢他的战术

小盜賊 发表于 2014-6-12 16:27

可不可轉過來一下:tsj1]

w905766 发表于 2018-11-6 15:28

个人觉得 TFF V3 (防守版)最厉害。。。
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