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回复:SI 论坛版主总结的 Football Manager 2008 FAQ(22 楼更新训练部分)
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Detailed look at a 442 and attributes need for FM
详述442和球员属性
Picking a formation in Football Manager can be a daunting task at times, do you go with the unknown and try a 343 and be a bit adventurous or do you stick to the good old 442. The reason why so many people use 442 is because its familiar and always a safe bet for any side to use, its also very flexible and allows you to change into other systems during a match if you need to shake things up a bit. Another reason why the 442 is so popular is because of the balance between defending and scoring, you can create a very solid 442 that is tight at the back but lethal when going forward. A lot of other formations like a 424 or 433 all have quite a few weaknesses against certain formations were as the 442 can be used against almost every formation there is.
选择阵型是个让人头疼的活,你是喜欢冒险尝试343还是坚持老套的442?无数人最熟悉也最爱442,因为它不仅均衡,同时也非常灵活易于调整。也正因为它在攻防两端的均衡,你才能创造一个既防守坚固也进攻犀利的阵型。许多其他的阵型,例如424和433,天生就有致命的缺点,而442,在对付任何阵型时都不会落于下风。
There are a few types of 442;
Standard 442, Diamond, Diamond Wide, Defensive Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder, Sweeper/Stopper
442有下面一些类型:
平行442,小菱形442,大菱形442,后腰形442,前腰型442,清道夫/盯人中卫442
These are the basic 442's that you are likely to encounter.
各种常见的442:
Standard 442
This is the more neutral focused 442 that concentrates on the defending and attacking ability of you're team, this is a very good starting point for any side to see what you're team is capable of. This type of formation should produce a fair amount of goals as well as keeping it very tight at the back if set up correctly. The wingers in this formation are vital for providing crosses into the box for your strikers. A lot of people also like to play one attacking midfielder and one defensive midfielder to make it a lot more balanced.
平行442
这是最中庸最均衡的442,能最真实的反映你队伍的实力。如果你设置的好,进攻和防守两端都会较强。此阵型最大的威力来自边锋的传中。很多人为了更平衡,喜欢把两个中前卫设为一个进攻型一个防守型。
Diamond
The 442 diamond normally consists of a flat back four, two central midfielder, a defensive midfielder, an attacking midfielder and 2 strikers. This set-up is very dependant on your fullbacks as they will be responsible for getting forward at every opportunity available because you have no wingers. So at times if the fullbacks are struggling to get forward you might find your strikers could get isolated for periods in the game. The wings can be a problem area at times, especially if you're playing against two very good wingers as they will have lots of space and time on the ball. If you do use this formation ensure that your fullbacks are good going forward but extremely good at defending duties too.
小菱形442
这个阵型由4后卫,1后腰,2中前卫,1前腰,2前锋组成。因为你没有边锋,两个边后卫的要求非常高,边路进攻他俩必须搞定。如果他俩助攻上不去,前锋会常常要不到球。如果对手的边锋很强,这个阵型会比较吃力。如果你要用这个阵型,请先确认你有两个NB的边后卫。(比如加速、速度、耐力、抢断、防守站位等等都在18以上的那种)
Diamond Wide
Unlike the diamond one above this set-up does have wingers and is a good system to use if you want to use overlapping fullbacks (these are explained further down). The vital part of this formation is the attacking midfielder’s position and the defensive midfielders too. The attacking midfielder will have both attacking and defensive duties; if he does not track players back when your side is not in possession of the ball then you will have a huge gap in middle of the park. This can cause big problems as your defensive midfielder will then move forward to try and win the ball and if he doesn't win it your defence will have all sorts of problems to deal with.
大菱形442
和上面一个阵型不同,这个阵型有边前卫,所以弱点不是那么大。此阵型的弱点在于前腰和后腰的防守。前腰要求攻防俱佳,如果他防守不行,中场中路就会给对手留出巨大的空间。这时如果你的后腰也抢断失败,你就完蛋了。
Defensive Midfielder
One of the more popular 442 systems to use is one that implements a defensive midfielder. This offers extra cover in front of the back four and when used right you should find the opposition’s chances are rather limited. This is an extremely useful set-up if you need to keep clean sheets and dominate the game in the midfield areas. The defensive midfielder’s job is to break up play and distribute the ball up field as quick as possible or hold onto the ball and wait until a clear cut pass arises, however holding onto the ball for too long can cause problems especially if he loses possession from dwelling on the ball.
后腰型442(四后卫,DMC,ML,MR,MC, 2 FC)
最流行的442之一。后腰为后卫线提供了额外的屏障,使得防守更为坚固。当你不想丢球而且控制中场时,尤其有用。此后腰的任务是截断对手进攻,直传发动反击,或者控制球等待队友跑到空当(注意如果控球时间过长被断的话就危险了)。
Attacking Midfielder
Another popular choice on the Football Manager series is the use of an attacking midfielder. A lot of people use this system and play through the attacking midfielder letting him get forward and create chances. A free role can work well in this position for the correct player as it allows him the licence to roam and wander looking for the ball. However if you play through the attacking midfielder the opposition might soon see this and make it incredibly difficult for you to get the ball to him. If you realise this is happening then change your passing style to down the wings and utilise the wingers.
前腰型442 (4后卫,ML,MC,MR,AMC, 2FC)
依靠前腰创造机会的阵型。如果能设置“自由人”效果更佳。如果对手对你前腰进行紧逼,让他接不到球的话,你可以设置将球更多分给两翼。
Sweeper/Stopper
A sweeper or stopper can be used in any formation or system but is mainly used for a back three rather than a back four and is mainly used in real life by the Italians. For this type of system to work you need the sweeper to be very good for the level that he is currently playing at. If he is not then it simply will not work how it should and be more of weakness that a strength.
清道夫/盯人中卫442
清道夫或盯人中卫能够在任何阵型中使用,但主要是用在3后卫而不是4后卫阵型中,现实中以意大利为代表。清道夫的要求很高,否则用起来很可能得不偿失。
I've not gone into too much detail about what each system does as I just want to cover the basics in this thread, but further down the line, we will take a more in-depth view of all the formations and really analyze them, but first let’s cover the bread and butter stuff. The stuff that I am about to write is just a starting point for people who want to create tactics but have little knowledge, I'm not saying these instructions are spot on because they might be for someone else but not you. But this is a good reference for a starting point for each position.
以上只是很简单的概括,细节我会以后的帖子里面仔细解释并分析。但这之前我先讲讲各个位置要求的球员属性问题,这对新手来讲尤其有用。
Defence
There are also four main ways to play your fullbacks as well, you can have over lapping fullbacks who are very offensive minded and provide a very attacking option to the team. But the draw back of playing with over lapping fullbacks is your wingers will have a lot of defensive duties to do in a game and you might find you get exposed a few times down the wings when your fullback is out of position. Another way in the flat back formation is to make them mark the opponent's forwards or wingers. These players have to be dependable and willing to give up any kind of offensive play as they will be very defensive minded so don't expect them to contribute on attacks. A third way to get them to work would be to have them work with the wingers (not over lapping though) and get forward to get crosses into the box at every chance possible for your strikers. The fourth way is more of a mixture between attacking and defending, the settings of this specific way really depends on how neutral you want to be, a good idea would to be leave a lot of things normal as that is neutral.
防守
边后卫也有四种主要摆法。第一,可以用边疯(包管边路上下一条龙服务,狂攻型的),但此时你的边前卫就不得不承担很多的防守任务,而且总会有几次被别人偷袭你边疯身后的大空当。第二,四后卫基本平齐,完全不插上,着力对付对方的前锋和前卫,这样的话进攻时就别指望他们出力了。第三,边后卫和边前卫配合进攻,着力于创造传中机会。第四,中庸心态,半攻半守。
Over Lapping fullbacks:
rossing, dribbling, teamwork, stamina, passing, off the ball and fitness. I found that fullbacks with these stats do well indeed. Also look out for the descriptions, I like to use explosive or attacking fullbacks as they are better suited to the job
边疯
传中,带球,团队协作,耐力,传球,无球跑动,和fitness。这些属性高的边后卫会比较适合这个位置。同时也要参考“球员描述”,我觉得“explosive后卫”或者“进攻型边后卫”比较适合这个位置。
Defensive fullbacks:
Work rate, stamina, teamwork, decisions, positioning and acceleration, determination, strength and tackling
防守型边卫
投入程度,耐力,团队协作,果断,防守站位,加速,决心,强壮,铲断
Attacking fullbacks:
Work rate, stamina, teamwork, decisions, positioning and acceleration, determination, strength, crossing and dribbling.
进攻型边卫
投入程度,耐力,团队协作,果断,防守站位,加速,决心,强壮,传中,带球
The Sweeper and Stopper systems are very similar and positional look the exact same, but it's what they do that makes them different. You have the sweeper set to where he'll push up and mop up any balls that the defenders in front of him cannot deal with and does what the name "sweeper" suggest and sweeps up any trouble your front defenders might make. Were as the stopper system uses man marking to either mark a striker or a central midfielder of the opposing team. Plus he is expected to play quick and early balls to your midfield to start early counter attacks.
清道夫和盯人中卫的站位是一样的,两者区别在于球员的具体设置。清道夫是会前压并扫清他身前的后卫没断掉的球,说白点,后卫的任何失误清道夫都要来补救,他是个自由人,到处跑查漏补缺。而盯人中卫的任务就是盯死对方的一个前锋或者一个中前卫,同时断球后快速大脚发动反击。
Sweeper System:
The sweeper should have a good understanding of the game and be a leader on the field. He controls the defence, always staying behind the fullbacks. For this to work you need a sweeper who as high concentration, decisions, influence, positioning, team work, tackling and a little bit of pace wouldn't go a miss too. If you can't find a player with the right stats then I suggest you don't play the sweeper system as put the wrong player as the sweeper and you may get crucified, but get the right player here and you can have a very solid back 4.
清道夫系统
清道夫对比赛的理解能力要强,也是后防领袖。他在后卫身后指挥防守。属性方面,集中力,果断,影响力,防守站位,团队协作,铲断,最好还有点速度。如果你有这样的球员,恭喜你,你的防线从此无忧了。如果你没有,建议你还是别用清道夫,我不想看见你自己把自己给钉死。
Stopper System: The stopper is responsible for marking the centre forward or centre midfielder of the other team. He also has an important offensive part of distributing the ball to the midfielders so you need a player who is good at passing, decisions, anticipation, decisions, tackling, concentration, work rate, positioning and a good first touch can help too.
盯人中卫系统
盯人中卫是来盯死对方前锋或者中场的。由于要求他断球后立刻传给中场发起反击,属性方面传球、果断、预见力、铲断,集中力,投入程度,防守选位和停球(First touch,“第一下”的意思)。
Midfield
The midfield of a 442 formation can be very variable indeed; you can play a flat four midfielders which is very stable and safe. You can use two wingers, one attacking midfielder and one defensive midfielder which are a common thing on Football Manager to do. Or instead of using two wingers you can bring them in to the middle of the pitch so you have two central midfielders. This way makes you a lot narrower but is good if you have very attacking fullbacks who like to venture forward. You can also use two wingers and two defensive midfielders if you wanted to as well. There are also lots of other ways like using a flat three midfielders with one defensive midfielder behind them but if I try to describe every variation I would be here all day.
中场
442的中场设置简直千变万化。平行站位安全稳固。很多人喜欢两边锋,一前腰一后腰。也有人把两个边前卫移到中路,给他们NB的进攻型边后卫自由发挥的空间。也有人用两边锋搭配双后腰。也有人用ML,MR,MC,DMC的。说一天都说不完。
Left/Right wingers:They are in charge for the crosses in the offence, and they usually carry the ball up the field, since they have more room than the centre midfielders. For wingers you need players with some of these stats crossing, creativity, dribbling, pace, acceleration, tackling, balance, technique, passing, finishing, long shots, teamwork, work rate and off ball. Not all of these are vital but some are. I have already explained in another thread what the vital and not so vital stats are.
左右边前卫:他俩的任务是传中和带球到前场(因为边路空间比中路大啊)。因此传中,创造力,带球,速度,加速,铲断,平衡,技术,传球,射门,远射,团队协作,投入程度和无球跑动都重要。我早已在别的帖子里面具体说明了这其中哪几个是最重要的。(在哪?)
Left/Right Centre midfielders: Distribute the ball the best they can to start quick attacks and try to stop or slow down opposing plays before they get to the defensive line. Good passing, decent tackling, work rate, team work, stamina, heading can be quite good and decent concentration are all important if you want them to be alert for 90 minutes.
中前卫:他们的任务是分球发动快攻和阻截对方中场。因此传球,铲断,投入程度,团队协作,耐力,头球,集中力都很重要,毕竟他们要90分钟都保持警惕。
Attacking Midfielders: These guys are the links between midfield and strikers and play in a very important position of the pitch. The ball is often there to be won in the last third of the pitch, so ideally you want an all round player a bit like a DMC. Some of the stats he needs are creativity, passing, off ball, technique, finishing, work rate, stamina, teamwork, flair, long shots, pace, acceleration.
前腰:前锋和中场间的转换枢纽。如果他赢得球权,往往就直接面对后卫线,如果他像个后腰一样能跑能抢,那他就NB了。重要属性是创造力,传球,无球跑,技术,射门,投入程度,耐力,团队协作,天赋,远射,速度,加速。
Defensive Midfielders: The defensive midfields are key players for breaking up play and beginning attacks. Some of the stats needed are tackling, strength, aggression, marking, stamina, work rate, teamwork, pace, passing, acceleration, determination, concentration and creativity.
后腰:后腰不仅是重要的防守球员,也是发动反击的第一环。重要属性是铲断,强壮,侵略性,盯人,耐力,投入程度,团队合作,速度,传球,加速,决心,集中和创造力。
Strikers
As for the strikers in a 442 formation you can't really do much with them as there are only two of them. So you can play two fast strikers, two big strong strikers or one of each. In these very basic formations, the forwards do no special work. Runs to the corners need to be only occasional, and dropping back to the midfield shouldn't be the primary way of getting the ball, this position is actually self explanatory.
前锋
442的前锋没什么很多可说的,你怎么排他也还是两个人。可以一高一快,双快或者双高。只是偶尔要一个前锋拉边传中。后撤到中场拿球?那还是前锋吗!
Striker: They are here to score the majority of your goals, remember though, not both strikers will be prolific it usually tends to be just one out of the two who scores the most goals. A few stats to look for are pace, technique, acceleration, dribbling, long shots, finishing and off ball.
前锋:场上的进球主力。注意不大可能两个前锋都很高产,一般其中某一个会包办大部分进球。速度,技术,加速,带球,远射,射门和无球跑比较重要。
Target man:You will need this play to keep hold of the ball and bring others into play and feed balls through to the slower striker. A few of the stats needed for this player type are strength, jumping, balance, agility, aggression, heading, anticipation and bravery.-------Cleon
站桩中锋(桥头堡):他的任务是拿住球,等待并传给后插上的射手。强壮,弹跳,平衡,敏捷,侵略性,头球,预见性和勇敢都很重要。 |
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