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[转载] FM2015 - 球员新位置 - 你们做好准备了吗

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FM2015 Features - New Player Roles in Football Manager 2015
http://sortitoutsi.net/articles/ ... otball-manager-2015

Roaming Playmaker 漫游者 / 多功能中场

Central and Defensive midfielders can be given a ‘roaming playmaker’ role designed for a versatile midfielder who can split their work between the duties of Deep-lying and Advanced Playmaker.
介于拖后组织和前场组织核心之间,可以承担两者职能

The Roaming Playmaker is the heartbeat of his team, driving forward with the ball to spearhead attacks as well as tracking back to cover defensively. Always offering a passing option to teammates, the Roaming Playmaker must have the physical attributes to maintain a high intensity as well as the technical attributes to stamp his authority on the game.
既组织进攻,还要防守

He will look to pick the ball up in deep positions and work the ball forwards with urgency, all the while keeping up with play. The Roaming Playmaker will often camp on the edge of the penalty area looking for room to shoot or to try that killer ball which creates a goalscoring opportunity.

Important Attributes*:重要属性
盘带 远射 传球 技术 预测 创造力 决定 无球跑位 位置感 平衡 耐力 强壮
Dribbling, Long Shots, Passing, Technique, Anticipation Creativity Decisions Off The Ball Positioning Balance Stamina Strength


Ramdeuter 边锋/前插型 - 代表-托马斯·穆勒

Wingers can also be instructed to play as a ‘Ramdeuter’. The word raumdeuter is German and best translated as ‘space investigator and is most widely associated with Germany’s Thomas Mueller. A raumdeuter is a bit lit a wide poacher suitable for players who want to operate on the periphery of build-up play before finding space in a dangerous area to add a clinical touch to the move.

A raumdeuter’s main role is to find pockets of space in which to operate. Essentially a wide poacher, the Raumdeuter takes up seemingly harmless positions out wide, waiting for the opportune moment to burst through the defensive line for that telling shot or cross.

He is difficult for defenders to pick up as he will often drift from his assigned position looking for any opportunity to exploit. This can result in quiet periods during which the Raumdeuter may neglect his defensive duties, therefore adequate cover and a strong team shape are key in order to fully utilise his attacking prowess in the final third.
边路的抢点前锋, 这个位置球员很可能会不能参加防守

Important Attributes*:重要属性
射门 第一次触球 预测 冷静 决策 无球跑位
Finishing First Touch Anticipation Composure Decisions off the ball


Inverted Wingback - 内切型进攻边后卫 - 似乎是南美边后卫的一种

The ‘inverted wingback’ is modelled on South American wingbacks who, rather than staying staying glued to the touchline when moving forward, will prefer to cut inside and make runs through the middle of the pitch, either dragging defenders inside or opening up a shooting chance.

The Inverted Wing Back will function defensively much like a standard Full Back or Wing Back. However, while a normal Wing Back will offer width to an attack, the inverted Wing Back will cut inside and make runs through the centre of the pitch, creating space for players around him.

Acting primarily as a central midfielder when attacking, this role is generally although not exclusively used to facilitate wide play from more advanced wingers.

Important Attributes*:
盘带 传球 远射 盯人 拦截 决定 工作效率 耐力
Dribbling Passing Long Shots Marking Tackling Off The Ball Decisions Work Rate Stamina


Wide Playmaker 边前卫位置上的组织者

Finally, if you’re looking to get the best out of a creative wide player who likes to roam across the pitch, the new ‘wide playmaker’ role may be ideal for you. This new role affords wingers the freedom to drift inside, and find space to create from a more central position, giving them more options to try and find that crucial killer pass.

The Wide Playmaker will act as the team’s primary source of creativity, drifting inside to find space from which to play the killer ball and create chances. Coming in from the wing allows the Wide Playmaker to escape the hustle and bustle of central midfield and can result in him being unmarked by opposition players.

Defensively the Wide Playmaker will take up his position on the wing to provide cover for his full-back; however, he is not expected to make too many tackles but instead he should take up good defensive positions and provide another body in the defensive line.

With an Attack duty the Wide Playmaker will come inside to sit in an advanced midfield position between the opposition’s defence and midfield. From here he will act as the main creator for his side. This may result in the Wide Playmaker being caught upfield and unable to get back into position for defensive phase.

With a Support duty the Wide Playmaker will come inside to sit in a central midfield position when his team have the ball. From here he will act as the main creator for his side

内切,喜欢到球场中间活动,传威胁球
Important Attributes*:重要属性*: 传球 技术 预测 创造力 决定
Passing Technique Anticipation Creativity Decisions

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发表于 2014-10-16 10:22 | 显示全部楼层
穆勒经常防守和反抢,那个位置的代表是内射哥吧,罗内射从来不防守

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Ramdeuter这个词本来就是德语来的,意思是space investigator。据说来源就是穆勒接受采访时,这么形容自己的。  发表于 2014-10-21 04:39
发表于 2014-10-16 10:22 | 显示全部楼层
其实位置功能不需要那么多细化
个人设置细化才好

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握個抓  发表于 2014-10-16 20:24
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 10:24 | 显示全部楼层
拜仁之魂! 发表于 2014-10-16 12:22
穆勒经常防守和反抢,那个位置的代表是内射哥吧,罗内射从来不防守

应该理解为进功参与过多,导致无法及时防守
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
batigoal.zyh 发表于 2014-10-16 12:22
其实位置功能不需要那么多细化
个人设置细化才好

其实就是给玩家简单化
发表于 2014-10-16 10:31 | 显示全部楼层
穆勒为何如此屌?
发表于 2014-10-16 10:34 | 显示全部楼层
jht1983 发表于 2014-10-16 10:30
其实就是给玩家简单化

这样几乎可以不要个人设置了
细化到各个类型后
只要战术上设定这个球员在场上扮演的角色就算OK了
个人设置越来越弱化了
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
batigoal.zyh 发表于 2014-10-16 12:34
这样几乎可以不要个人设置了
细化到各个类型后
只要战术上设定这个球员在场上扮演的角色就算OK了

对于80%的玩家还说估计是方便很多了
对于喜欢自己风格的玩家可能有些失望

参考- WOW
发表于 2014-10-16 10:41 | 显示全部楼层
Roaming Playmaker哪个球员算是代表人物啊,还需要身体强壮???杰拉德小法皮尔洛之类的,身体也不算强壮吧。

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杰队的身体以前还是很强的,只是岁数大了而已 其实想想龙哥也不错  发表于 2014-10-16 10:52
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 10:46 | 显示全部楼层
onlyweiran 发表于 2014-10-16 12:41
Roaming Playmaker哪个球员算是代表人物啊,还需要身体强壮???杰拉德小法皮尔洛之类的,身体也不算强壮吧 ...

网上说,杰拉德

点评

现在的话,应该是亚亚图雷吧,博格巴不是也算么?皮尔洛不在的时候,不是也经常说博格巴承担组织工作  发表于 2014-10-17 14:53
发表于 2014-10-16 10:54 | 显示全部楼层
这个对人造人有影响吗?就是新位置对创建球员时候位置和属性的权重问题
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 10:56 | 显示全部楼层
rexona 发表于 2014-10-16 12:54
这个对人造人有影响吗?就是新位置对创建球员时候位置和属性的权重问题

大多数随机人是很坑的,比如有后卫体格的,身高不够等。。
所以很多时候你需要根据需要改变位置

而且现实,很多球员因为年龄变大,踢的位置也不一样
发表于 2014-10-16 11:04 | 显示全部楼层
以后随机人的出现也能较符合某一种角色最好
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 11:06 | 显示全部楼层
rhinoupads 发表于 2014-10-16 13:04
以后随机人的出现也能较符合某一种角色最好

也会有吧,只是和现实一样,比较少

参考 P21。。他代表了一种位置,当今都没有能和他媲美了
发表于 2014-10-16 11:10 | 显示全部楼层
看起来RP就像加强版的全能啊
发表于 2014-10-16 11:11 | 显示全部楼层
jht1983 发表于 2014-10-16 10:56
大多数随机人是很坑的,比如有后卫体格的,身高不够等。。
所以很多时候你需要根据需要改变位置

我不是说随机人 我是说用editor工具创建一个球员  有个工具可以测试到位置与CA/PA的权重的 具体名字我忘记了
例如只有SC位置的话 射门会占权重的10 而如果该球员具有SC和AMC位置的话 射门占用权重只有8了 这样可以拉低整体的现有能力需求 哈哈
发表于 2014-10-16 11:52 | 显示全部楼层
只想等游戏出来后,好好看看边路的AP和新的wide playmaker有什么区别
发表于 2014-10-16 12:15 | 显示全部楼层
拜仁之魂! 发表于 2014-10-16 10:22
穆勒经常防守和反抢,那个位置的代表是内射哥吧,罗内射从来不防守

罗内射可不抢点  代表人物应该是西罗
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-16 12:16 | 显示全部楼层
vonkaka22 发表于 2014-10-16 13:52
只想等游戏出来后,好好看看边路的AP和新的wide playmaker有什么区别

网上说可能是威少(娜娜)

点评

既能回撤组织又能埋伏在禁区前沿远射,这已经是缩水版的B2B的活动范围了吧,我觉得莫德里奇这种比较靠谱,埃雷拉不知能否算的上,  发表于 2014-10-16 18:58
发表于 2014-10-16 12:40 | 显示全部楼层
jht1983 发表于 2014-10-16 10:46
网上说,杰拉德

这个,应该算是全能中场中比较硬的球员吧,感觉世界上符合这个要求的不多啊
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