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本帖最后由 李小宇 于 2012-6-12 23:06 编辑

  之所以翻译这篇文章是因为现在的好战术 大家都是下载完了了事 但对他真正的设计思路一点都不知道 本篇作者Tactikzz 花了大量时间写了他的战术是如何设置而来 虽然是一种较为数学的理论 但是一千个人里就有一千个FM 不管是从尊重作者的劳动成果 还是从扩展我们的设计思路的考虑 这都是一篇非常不错的文章 希望大家玩得哈皮~

Cheers
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原帖是 http://fmtacticalnewspaper.fmcrowd.com/fm-grid-system/

战术包下载在 http://www.playgm.cn/viewthread.php?tid=619430&;extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3Dtype%26amp%3Btypeid%3D1

另开一贴是因为这个确实很长 在原帖编辑实在不是很方便
另外 全篇都是我个人翻译 内容与原帖有误差 有一些地方 我也没整明白 一切以原文为标准~



Throughout my time playing Football Manager, I’ve pretty much used to same idea when designing tactics – to try and recreate real world tactical philosophies. I’m not alone in this way of thinking, as I’m sure many of the other FM tacticians think along the same lines, but I needed something new, a new way of looking at the game, and so the FM Grid System was born.

自我玩FM以来 我一直都是以现实足球理念来设计我的战术,我想很多人都是这样的一个想法.但是我希望从一个新的角度来制作一些战术毕竟这只是个游戏 FM Grid System就这样诞生了

Recreating real life tactics is quite simple really. You analyse player positions, adjust the defensive line to reflect a ‘stand off’ approach or ‘intense pressing’ philosophy, and tweak individual sliders all day long in the hope of seeing your players performances mirror their real world counterparts. My grid system approach works differently. It’s an entirely new way of constructing a tactic, based around a detailed notch grid system designed in Adobe Photoshop. None of this constant tweaking here, no no, just simple constructed tactics, based around an entirely new and original approach.

对我来说 复刻现实战术的方法很简单, 观察下球员的定位,调整下后防线的深度 是回收 还是压上, 然后去花大量的时间调整每个球员的详细设置 以求和现实中的表现相符.但是我的grid system可跟这种方法不一样.grid system是一种全新的战术设置方法 她是在Adobe Photoshop上建立的详细到每一个滑条数值的严谨的战术设置方式.不会因为个别球员微调战术 这是一个严格按照这种方法设计的战术

Having had a quick look throughout the FM community, it would appear that my grid system is unique, in as much as I can’t find another way of designing tactics like it. Feel free to tell me otherwise of course! Now, I’ve not designed this new method because of the fact that nobody else has thought of it – it simply popped into my head one day, therefore I decided to test if the theory actually worked in practice. People might scan through this article and criticise this new approach, but you do not get anywhere if you don’t try and break boundaries. I’m sure the FM grid system has its flaws, but the results have been pleasing, winning the domestic cup double in two different leagues, in two separate countries, while using two default squads.

如果你去FM的论坛上溜达一圈 你可找不到以我的这种grid system理论为基础设计的战术. 就像被苹果砸到的牛顿一样 这玩意有一天忽然蹦进了我的脑子里 然后我就想 为什么不试试看呢.你们也许就是大概的瞄两眼这个理论 然后就下载战术,不过如果你们如此的鼠目寸光 那么你们将一事无成.我明白这个FM grid system还有很多缺陷,但是目前为止 效果还是不错的 分别在两个国家联赛里拿到了双冠王

Before I begin discussing and outlining the new approach, let me first explain how the idea came to fruition.

在我开始描述这套理论之前,我先来介绍下我是怎么让这个种子开花结果的


First and foremost, I simply decided to break away from the norm. Designing tactics that attempt to replicate real life football is challenging yet rewarding, but also extremely time consuming if constructed properly. I’m sure many of you have increased a players mentality by five notches and reduced their creative freedom by three notches, repeating the process throughout the entire eleven outfield players, in an attempt to find that perfect fit. The final piece of the Football Manager puzzle. Constant tweaking in order to find the magical notch set up. We’ve all done it and continue to do it, myself included – I won’t ever stop constructing tactic using this method. But, I hought to myself, what if there was / is a way to build a tactic from scratch that follows an almost mathematical system? A tactic that is pretty much created and realised on paper, and stops you from tweaking Football Manager sliders. The end result being ‘final’, as it follows a methodological approach. Could this be done?

首先,我不想再这么循规蹈矩.制作一个现实球队的战术打法依旧是一个挑战, 但是你需要耗费大量的时间去调教她. 我想很多人都是这个队员多给5格的心态 那个队员少3格的自由度 然后反复的调整你的场上每一个人以达到你的想法. 日复一日 年复一年,你玩多久的FM 就得微调多久.但是我在思考 为什么不能把FM战术用数学计算的方式设计出来?仅仅在纸上设计战术 然后运算出来 用计算的方式来终结这种微调滑条的FM方式.

The Grid System

The entire system is based around a few calculations, with the first idea being based around what the maximum football pitch dimensions can be. These dimensions are taken from a BBC web page. That page informs us that the maximum allowed dimensions for a football pitch must be 120m long and 90m wide. It can be smaller than this (90m long and 45m wide), but I want to cover all possibilities and the maximum distance allows for this.So, the maximum pitch dimensions can be 120m x 90m.

这一整套的系统都是建立在一些计算之上. 第一个想法是最大的球场面积是多大.这个数据可以从BBC的网页上搜得,被允许的最大尺寸是120长 90米宽.(最小是90米长 45米宽),因为我想覆盖所有的可能性 所以取了最大值


Next I look at the Football Manager tactical interface and break down the individual player sliders. The maximum amount of notches that the game allows us to experiment with is 21, from left to right, with the starting notch being one, and the very end of the scale being 21. With these numbers in mind we can now calculate a  football pitch 42 notch grid system. A 42 notch grid allows me to create a target reticle, or circle, which expands by one notch per time, spanning the entire 21 notches of mentality, creative freedom and passing length etc – effectively planning out an entire tactic by using the grid.

下面我查看了FM的球队和球员详细的设置 我们发现从左至右 每个滑条的数值是21格 由此 我们就得到了一个42格的FM 球场网格.这样的网格可以让我们做标线 或者做辐射状环形,这样每移动一次 就等于球队或球员的滑条增减1格,并且可以显示21格的心态 自由度和传球方式等等.这样直观的显示可以帮助我们更加有效的制作战术.

Anyway, back to the calculations.

不管你整明白没 我们先来做做简单的数学

120m long (pitch length) divided by 21 notches = 5.7 metres per notch (roughly).

120米长度除以21格 约等于 5.7米每格

90m wide (pitch width) divided by 21 notches = 4.3 metres per notch (roughly).

90米宽除以21格 约等于4.3米每格

At this stage I reminded myself that the in game tactical pitch diagram isn’t a complete pitch. It cuts off the opposition goal area, which is eighteen yards, roughly sixteen metres. Re-calculations were required.

在这里 我提醒大家这个尺寸并不是实际尺寸 因为你得扣除对方的禁区啊~ 也就是18码 约等于16米 再来一次

120m max length – 16m = 104 metres length inside of Football Manager.

120米长减去16米 等于104的实际长度

Inside of Footballl Manager…104 metres divided by 21 notches = 5 metres per notch (roughly).

104除以21格约等于 5米每格

Therefore, to finally conclude, if we are to assume that the tactical pitch diagram is maximum size (to cover all possibilities), then it is 104 metres long (because opposition’s goal area is cut off) and 90 metres wide.

所以 如果我们假设球场的最大战术面积(扣除对方禁区)那便是104长和90米宽

*NOTE* – The above calculations are not important really, but it gave me an understanding to what real life dimensions I would be travelling along when creating a grid in game. These calculations were the very first ideas of my thought process, so I thought it would be ideal for you to follow along – hence they they are included.

注意: 上面的计算其实都不那么重要 (你麻痹啊)他只是告诉我们真实的球场尺寸是多少 帮你们涨涨知识而已

With these initial calculations in place, I now had a method of how to apply them to the in game tactical pitch layout. Next I needed to capture a screenshot and take more measurements, this time of the Football Manager tactical pitch dimensions, dividing the width and length by 21 notches, to create pitch grid.

有了这些计算之后 我就有了一个怎么去覆盖球场面积的理论. 下面我需要一个图来直观的表现21格网格都画在了哪里.




The tactical pitch layout is approximately 379 pixels wide x 482 pixels long. If we then divide each of these numbers by 21 notches, we come to an approximate spacing of 18 pixels per line wide and 23 pixels per line length. The final grid is shown above. Are you still with me?!

战术球场面积大概有379个像素点宽 482个像素点长, 如果我们把他们都除以21,我们大概可以得到 18个像素点宽 和23个像素点长

The grid is created from the Football Manager notch system, which is a maximum of 21 notches. If you count the lines, you’ll see I have 21 lines from left to right (4.3 metre spacing of real world distance), and 21 lines from top to bottom (5 metre spacing of real world distance). The final grid is formed.

这个网格是根据FM的21格刻度系统制作的 如果你去数的话 从左到右一共有21条线 还有从上到下的21条线.

Tactical Grid EnhancementsHaving obtained a 21 notch grid that covers the entire length and width of the in game tactical pitch layout, I now needed to create another grid that highlights where I can place players within any formation that I desire. The results are shown below.


在有了21格的网格后 我需要另一个网格来突出我希望的球员站位的空间 结果如下



Wherever the red lines cross indicate where I can place a player on the pitch. From my own goal area to the edge of the opposition’s goal area.

在所有红线交汇的地方 都是你可以放置的球员站位 从我们自己的禁区 到对方禁区的边缘

Take a look at the central midfield pair and you’ll notice two red lines slightly outside of them. These are the positions they will take up if I were to add another midfielder alongside them, creating a central midfield trio – as can be seen by the three strikers placement.

看看2个MC你会发现红线有些许的偏离他们 那个位置是你加入第三个MC后他们会出现的地方,如果你有三个MC 那么就看看三个ST的位置 你就明白了

To further enhance the entire process, I needed to set up my target reticle system that would expand by one notch as the target expanded from the centre.


为了进一步完成 我需要建立一个目标标线 以表达一个滑条的变化 就是一个标线的变化



As each square on the grid represents one notch forwards, backwards, left and right, a circle is drawn that encompasses both vertical and horizontal spacing. This circle is then expanded by one notch per time, creating a final target reticle system.

我们从上面知道 每一个网格都代表着一个刻度 先前或后 左或右, 这样一个辐射型的环形就代表着每一个横向和纵向的空间.这个圆环扩大一圈 代表着滑条变化一个刻度.

The final outcome can be found below, albeit slightly smaller in order to fit on the page.

那么由此可得 最后的应该是这样



I have also numbered each circle as they expand to give a clear indication of what notch on the Football Manager slider system I should place each slider setting. The target can be moved freely around the image.

我标出了每个圆环扩大所代表的数字 数字代表着战术设置里对应的滑条数值


How Do I Use The Grid System?
I would imagine that this is by far the most important question you have, and the one that is currently in the forefront of your mind, so let me explain. It is an idea of mine to break the game down to its basic form and this system is an attempt at doing so.

我想这是你们现在最关心的问题 怎么去使用Grid System.


Mentality
A players mentality indicates his vertical way of thinking, how aggressive he plays in terms of his passing, but also his positioning on the football pitch, especially when combined with forward runs set to ‘rarely’. The number of grid lines that run vertically up the pitch equate to 21 – which helps me with exact player positioning. If I play a striker within my system then he will have his mentality setting placed between, say, seventeen and twenty, depending on his role.

球员的心态表明了他对球场纵向的进攻方式, 他会使用什么样的传球? 当你设置从不前插的时候 他的位置应该在哪里?从上面我们知道 在这个系统里 纵向有21条线 这样就帮助我们确定了球员的定位 如果在这个系统设置一个前锋 那么我给他的心态 根据角色在17到20之间.




Creative Freedom
A players creative freedom is afforded to him so that he can try his own ideas out there on the football pitch, while sometimes ignoring your tactical plan, but one can also assume that it can be linked to player movement horizontally, in terms of wandering out of position in order to try something special and unique. I can calculate how many notches I should give each player by using the grid, remembering that it is my usual style and choice to keep a rigid philosophy wherever possible.

球员的自由度是设置他们会不会用自己的方法在球场上发挥,但是另一种假设是 能不能把他们和球员的横向移动结合起来,球员因为自由度的设置 离开了为他设置的位置 灵活跑位到别的位置上自由发挥.我会用计算的方式来设置球员的自由度究竟是多少,记住计算啊计算 这套理论的基础~




The example above shows my left fullback. As I want to keep things rigid and tight at the back, I analyse the horizontal grid surrounding him. Two notches to the left push him towards the touchline, while three notches towards the right pushes him directly alongside the left centre back. Two or three notches of creative freedom is perfectly fine within my rigid philosophy of playing football, to ensure that he is positioned correctly at all times, to reduce his wandering and movement around the pitch.

上面的例子是我的左后卫,因为我想让他以严格的理念来比赛 ,所以用横向的线来观察他.向左两格 就到了边线 而向右3格 他就会接触到左边的中后卫, 所以2 或3格的自由度 是一个不错的选择 为了保证他一直都在应该在的位置上 去掉灵活跑位.


Passing Length
Moving onto a players passing and we are also offered 21 notches in which to tinker and experiment with. The target reticle system allows me to choose exact player passing, as it create an exact target for me to judge passing length – one notch circumference, two notches, three…etc. I place a player onto the grid, position the target reticle over him and from that I can see how many notches I would need to give him in game so that he can pass to certain players located around the entire pitch.

下面来说说传球的数值. 目标标线给了我们一个很好的方法来测试到底每一个队员应该给多少传球.在上面 我们已经创造了目标标线那么把他带入到球员位置里 你就会发现这样的图 上面的数字代表着 一格 两格 3格等等的滑条数值.如果我们把球员和目标标线放入到图里 可以很直观的告诉我们 你想让他传给谁 那么就给他多少的数值~




Within my current formation, I have placed the passing length target reticle over my anchor man in an attempt to come to a conclusion over what his passing length should be within Football Manager. If I want him to keep the passing short and sweet then a simple glance at the diagram will indicate that four or five notches should do the trick, as he will be able to pass to the defence and central midfield. Alternatively, I could plan out a tactic where he is deployed as a deep lying playmaker, in which case he would need the correct passing length to pick out the advancing wingbacks at ease. Ten or eleven notches would suffice in this instance, allowing him to pass to either flank and the strikers if need be. Throughout the entire tactic building process, I only have to move the reticle over an outfield player (or the position they might end up in during a match) and choose a final passing length, in FM notches. A simple system that works surprisingly well.

就像上面的图里 我把目标标线带入到后腰的位置上 我们发现 如果我们希望他传球给附近的队员 那么4 到5 格的传球数值足以,这样他可以传给附近的MC或者是中后卫, 如果这个位置上你放置了一个拖后组织, 那么很简单 10 或者11格的传球数值 保证他可以给边锋和前锋输送炮弹. 通过这个系统 ,你只需要把目标标线放到每个球员的位置上,运用她的数值去定义FM的滑条数值,那么每一个球员都可以踢的很舒服.


Example Of Creating A Tactic
By using all of the above, we can finally begin constructing a tactic by using the grid system and where better to start that the defensive line, in order to keep things tight. During my experience, the twenty notches afforded to us within the team instructions tactical interface actually equate to moving the defensive line from my own goal area, up to and around the half way line. Your defensive line never really push on further than the half way line, when the slider is ‘maxed’ out. So we can assume that around eighteen or twenty notches on the defensive line slider push your defenders to around the half way line, where as one to five on the slider would place them in and around their own penalty area. As I want to play deep and on the counter I place the slider on seven (roughly), to keep things secure at the back and free up space in the opponents half as they push on.

运用上面所有说的东西 我们就可以开始制作战术了,当然 如果你想让你的战术更有效 我们最好从后防线深度开始.以我的经验,20格的后防线位置是从我们的禁区到中场线附近,你的后防线再靠上也不会超过中场线 哪怕你给的压上的20格满值.那么这样 我们假设18到20格是后防线在中场线附近 那么1到5格则是让他们呆在禁区里, 如果我希望反击的回收防线,那么我就把他设置为7格左右, 这样既可以保证后方的安全又能确定对方压上时有大片空挡为我的反击做准备.

For planning out my teams width, I use the grid, planning out which notch of the twenty I should place the marker. require that my team play nice and wide to open up space to hit teams on the counter attack when we are in possession, therefore I choose around eighteen notches for the teams width. Looking at the grid and starting from the left, counting as I progress to the right, eighteen gives enough width, as we end up near the touchline, while not actually hugging the touchline.

对于球场宽度的利用, 我希望我的球队在反击时可以充分的利用球场的宽度,那么我设置了18格宽度. 在看看网格系统 从左到右 18格给予了足够的宽度, 并且终止在边线附近 同时 又不会太靠近边线

As for individual player instructions, then we follow the process outlined above, selecting mentality, creative freedom and passing length based on the outcome of the grid calculations. If I want a defender to play defensive, in and around his own goal area, then he will have four or five mentality. If however I want him to play around the half way line on occasions and look to attack, I will place his mentality around twelve on the slider – all based on the grid system.

对于球员的个人设置 按照上面的Grid System 我们就可以设置心态 自由度以及传球的距离.如果我希望一个防守球员安分守己 那么给予他4 或5的心态,如果你希望他插上进攻 那么就给予12的心态



As you can see from the final grid image, we have a complete layout (excluding the target reticle). Grid squares covering the length and width of the image, possible player position crossover red lines, and a mentality guide running up the left hand side. Let me give you a final player example that you can hopefully follow by looking at the above image – the goalkeeper.

从最终的网格我们可以看到所有你需要的战术设置指导 长度宽度 球员位置 心态等等 不过 我还是给你最后一个球员例子 门将

Looking at the final grid image above, and remembering that I want to play deep to keep things secure at the back, the grid would tell me that the goalkeeper would need a value of four for his mentality, so that he plays to the edge of his eighteen yard box. No sweeper keeper here. Now look at the grid spaces horizontally to him, three for creative freedom would limit his movement so that he stays central as a goalkeeper. We’re defending deep so I want him to be, effectively, just a shot stopper between the posts. Finally, by using the passing target reticle, I came to the conclusion that six of seven would give him enough distance on his passes to reach any of the back four. By clicking on the image below you can see the final settings for the goalkeeper following this process of grid system placement.

从上图 我们可以看到 如果我想回收防线 确保不丢球,那么我给予门将4格的心态 那么他将活动在禁区边缘 自由度方面 因为回收防线 3格的自由度体现在横向的坐标线上 确保他不会在横向方面移动的太远 而是在门柱间.传球给他6 到7格的数值 那么他可以轻松的传给他身前的每一个后卫.你可以看到 非常简单的设置 如果你使用Grid System.




Unfortunately settings like ‘closing down’ have to be set by my own judgement from playing the game over a number of years. If we are playing deep and cautiously, then it obviously makes sense to give him low closing down. The opposite would be relevant for a high pressing game, or if the goalkeeper was in fact a sweeper keeper.

很遗憾的是 压迫值需要根据我的经验来设置. 如果我们踢的很回收 那么少一点的压迫值是必须的.如果是可清道夫门将 那么就需要高一点的压迫.

The process and placement of each notch is then carried out and completed for each and every outfield player, which in turn completes the tactic.


用这样的方法 你可以简单的设置每一个队员 以此来完成整个的战术设置

Conclusion
Is this system without its flaws? Probably not, as the more math-minded readers out there will probably rip it apart and see some holes in my design. But it’s actually worked very well during testing, with four trophies won in two seasons within two separate countries. So, regardless of whether the system actually holds up in theory or practice, the end result has actually worked. It may be a miracle, or it may be down to the grid system.

这个战术理论有缺陷嘛? 没有的嘛.不过对于一些别有用心的人来说 这简直就是他们炒作的圣诞节.但是我在测试的时候确实很不错 在不同的国家拿了各种冠军.虽然这个理论还在实验阶段 但是他的结果真是振奋人心 让我不得不暗赞自己能干啊.


One thing I’d like to point out is that the final tactic is purely a result from the grid system – I’ve not tweaked it in any way. All slider positions are the result of what I’ve calculated through the system. What you see is what you get. In that respect, going by the results, it’s been a success. I have played / tested the tactic in two seasons with two different teams and have only lost three games in 72 matches. During one of the seasons I remained invincible throughout the league campaign and unlocked the relevant Steam achievement. Unbeaten for an entire domestic league season.

最后要说的是 战术设置都是严格按照Grid System来的 没有任何微调 我测试了2年 72场比赛仅仅输了3场,我甚至解开了一个单季不败的成就~

Is it something that I will keep using? Well yes. A theory / system that has produced a tactic which has enabled me to go unbeaten throughout a season, lose only three games in 72 matches and reign victorious within two countries by winning the domestic cup and league titles on both occasions, should definitely be a ‘keeper’. As mad as it sounds, looks and appears, the system seems to work! It’s simplified my tactical building process down to a system, a rigid structure that plans out my tactic for me depending on the philosophies that I require to be included within the core tactical theory.


BLA BLA 就是说自己设计这个理论很牛逼 懒得翻了

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发表于 2012-6-12 22:56 | 显示全部楼层
占楼慢慢享受!
发表于 2012-6-12 23:14 | 显示全部楼层
原创的东东,总是要大力支持的。。。。
发表于 2012-6-12 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
必须顶啊!回去慢慢研究。
发表于 2012-6-12 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
学英文的好机会来了
发表于 2012-6-12 23:37 | 显示全部楼层
非常有意思哦
发表于 2012-6-12 23:38 | 显示全部楼层
插一个 慢慢看
发表于 2012-6-12 23:39 | 显示全部楼层
回复 3# xylujia

翻译的吧
发表于 2012-6-12 23:53 | 显示全部楼层
好高深。。。
发表于 2012-6-13 00:48 | 显示全部楼层
这个真心和我想的差不多...只不过我没有再继续去研究了...真是牛人啊...
发表于 2012-6-13 01:40 | 显示全部楼层
看起来挺有道理,可是我们怎么应用?自己做一张纸画上站位刻度,然后再做一个透明塑料薄膜画上圆圈?
发表于 2012-6-13 01:53 | 显示全部楼层
收藏 回去研究~~
发表于 2012-6-13 02:25 | 显示全部楼层
嗯,值得试试...但是不知道具体怎么操作啊?
发表于 2012-6-13 02:35 | 显示全部楼层
LZ英语帝啊,谢谢楼主如此细心了,顶上去求斑竹加分~
发表于 2012-6-13 02:42 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢LZ了,不过能不能直接翻译就好,把英文那些去掉啊,
发表于 2012-6-13 07:37 | 显示全部楼层
:lol翻译的很好 很多英文词看不明白的 都和 FM 对应起来了
发表于 2012-6-13 08:58 | 显示全部楼层
回复 1# 李小宇


  大家都给MR HOUGH欺骗了好多年了。阴谋啊。
发表于 2012-6-13 09:10 | 显示全部楼层
非常感谢翻译这么好的战术理论文章,今晚回家就去试试!
发表于 2012-6-13 09:12 | 显示全部楼层
別去英文,樓主辛苦
发表于 2012-6-13 13:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 syhsong 于 2012-6-13 13:26 编辑

这个 非常棒
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