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发表于 2022-4-16 11:05 | 显示全部楼层
Hi, I am an online FM player. Can you customize a tactic for me? I can give you $100  You can make your own price
发表于 2022-4-16 11:31 | 显示全部楼层
这次更新了之后,感觉zaz用于弱队的时候效果没有以前的好了,打不出以前的进攻效果
发表于 2022-4-16 13:13 | 显示全部楼层
U R BIG GOD, U R VERY NIU BI
发表于 2022-4-16 18:09 | 显示全部楼层
你好ZaZ,请问我在使用你的BLUE 4.0的时候。很遗憾我的球队没有两个顺足的边锋。我把两边的W改成IF可以吗?怎么调整会更好呢?还是说完全不用担心球员的位置熟练度?比如AC Milan 的Rafael Leao 我让他踢AR是否可以?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-16 18:37 | 显示全部楼层
aaforever 发表于 2022-4-16 18:09
你好ZaZ,请问我在使用你的BLUE 4.0的时候。很遗憾我的球队没有两个顺足的边锋。我把两边的W改成IF可以吗? ...

To be fair, the favourite foot doesn't make much of a difference to wingers, so I wouldn't bother much. The opinion of your assistant manager on player's ability is just a cosmetic and has no effect on performance, the only thing that matters is position rating (green circle) and having proper attributes (for wingers: Tier 1. acceleration and pace, Tier 2. stamina and work rate, Tier 3. crossing and dribbling).

About Rafael Leão, I wouldn't play him on AMR unless he is at least accomplished in the position. In tests from FM-Arena, there isn't much difference between Natural (light green) and Accomplished (dark green), but the difference is very big if rating is lower. He would be better playing AML, even if his foot is Right. As I said before, foot makes no difference in performance for Blue.

As an alternative, you can change both wingers to IF-At and both strikers to F9.
发表于 2022-4-16 22:04 | 显示全部楼层
I thank you from the bottom of my heart
发表于 2022-4-17 11:17 | 显示全部楼层
hello,the RPM  What do you want from him?What players are suitable for?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-17 12:21 | 显示全部楼层
aobiseer 发表于 2022-4-17 11:17
hello,the RPM  What do you want from him?What players are suitable for?

I have uploaded pictures of suggested players based on the work of ykykyk05251 from this thread: https://www.playgm.cn/thread-943500-1-1.html

The list of players was made by Mark from FM-Arena, and it's important to know that attributes might change from one save to another.
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发表于 2022-4-17 21:25 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ 发表于 2022-4-17 12:21
I have uploaded pictures of suggested players based on the work of ykykyk05251 from this thread: h ...

我非常好奇为什么后腰位置上选择了全能组织核心?当我其他战术不选择防守型后腰时往往防守非常脆弱。但在使用你的  ZAZ  green时候防守又会好?和为什么后腰的比赛评分总是不稳定?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-18 00:20 | 显示全部楼层
aobiseer 发表于 2022-4-17 21:25
我非常好奇为什么后腰位置上选择了全能组织核心?当我其他战术不选择防守型后腰时往往防守非常脆弱。但在 ...

T: ‎I'm curious why I chose the all-round organization core in the back position? When I don't choose defensive backs for other tactics, I tend to be very defensive. But how about defending when using your ZAZ green? And why are the game ratings at the back always unstable?‎

I'm not sure if the translation was very good, but I couldn't understand if you are talking about the Roaming Playmaker or the Ball Playing Defenders.

If I understood well, you are talking about making Green more defending, but I don't think that's necessary since the tactic is already very solid in the back. I'm actually working in a variation of Green to make it more attacking, and I think if you need a change to Green it would be to score more goals, not to concede less.
发表于 2022-4-18 10:54 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ 发表于 2022-4-18 00:20
T: ‎I'm curious why I chose the all-round organization core in the back position? When I don ...

I mean,why my defensive midfield always comes off really bad when I try my own other tactics?His score is always very low,But without defensive midfield, defense will be very fragile。But when using your tactics,the defense is very strong。Even chose to attack DM。Why?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-18 16:40 | 显示全部楼层
aobiseer 发表于 2022-4-18 10:54
I mean,why my defensive midfield always comes off really bad when I try my own other tactics?His ...

If you check the status of DM after the end of a season, you will notice they don't score many goals, don't shoot, don't dribble, don't give many assists and don't participate too often in defensive movements. The only thing they excel is at passes made per match. That's the reason why they have low scores, because they don't do actions that increase score.

However, that doesn't mean DM are useless. When your team is in possession, Roaming Playmakers will move to positions where they can receive the ball unmarked. That means the main role of RPM is to give passing options, allowing you to keep possession and transition to attacking movements. If you didn't have RPM, your players would often be without options for passing, having to either try a longer and riskier pass, try to dribble or pass the ball back to defenders. In other words, RPM allows you to play safer when in possession, and that helps you have a solid defense. When out of possession, they will go back to cover central positions, forcing opponents to attack through the flanks.
发表于 2022-4-18 21:02 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ 发表于 2022-4-18 16:40
If you check the status of DM after the end of a season, you will notice they don't score many goa ...

I see。Thank you for sharing。So does RPM not require too high capability requirements?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-19 00:27 | 显示全部楼层
aobiseer 发表于 2022-4-18 21:02
I see。Thank you for sharing。So does RPM not require too high capability requirements?

It does, like anyone else. You just won't get good scores even with the best DMs, but that doesn't mean a DM with better abilities doesn't perform better. It's just that the score for DM doesn't actually reflect how much it contributed during the match.
发表于 2022-4-19 10:32 | 显示全部楼层
Green5.0 works great!

I'm almost invincible in League Two with Leyton Orient, and I have the ability to compete against Championship opponents!

FA Cup against Arsenal, still able to hand over a 2:1 score.  What a great tactics !
发表于 2022-4-19 12:43 | 显示全部楼层
Would you introduce how you design a tactic? As we know there are many insane tactics in the games recent years,like 3 forwards in fm17 ,non-foward 4-4-2(with 2 ss) since fm18 to fm21.But in my opinion,the "best" tactic in other words "best" formation always determined by match engine.For example, 3 forwards in fm17 is like a bug,good tactics in fm-arena all choose 3 AF,but when i  use 3 F9 even 3DF with Denfense duty it also works,so i don't think it's the combination of duty and role works.But i  understand role,duty,mentality do really make differences.
And my question is how you find out the "best" formation?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-19 19:50 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ZaZ 于 2022-4-19 19:53 编辑
akashi 发表于 2022-4-19 12:43
Would you introduce how you design a tactic? As we know there are many insane tactics in the games r ...


Football is all about using space to score goals and prevent opponents from scoring. The objective of a tactic is to score more goals than opposition. That target can be achieved in multiple ways, but it's important to make sure all your efforts contribute to that end.

The most important thing when developing a tactic is to define the behavior of your team. If you don't know what you want, neither will your players. It's as simple as that. You use formation and instructions as tools to enforce that behavior.

First you need to decide the tactical style, which is a set of patterns for attacking and defensive phases, like Gegenpressing or Tiki-Taka. Then you can refine the tactic choosing how players will use space with and without the ball.

For example, will your players pass shorter to take advantage of a strong midfield, or will they pass more direct to take advantage of strong wings? Will they move forward after passing the ball to create more infiltration, or will they hold position to keep a solid defense? Will they use offside trap?

When choosing playing styles, keep in mind that you should always attempt to create synergy, which means instructions should potentialize each other. Then, is just about testing and seeing what work well together and what is harming your performance. The more you test, the more you start understanding what works and what does not.

Another time, I'll make a list of formations, team instructions and player instructions to show what play styles benefit of each.
发表于 2022-4-20 18:54 | 显示全部楼层
green5.0有点离谱。。。。踢埃弗顿40脚射门,踢莱斯特50脚射门,一个8-0,一个10-1
发表于 2022-4-20 21:48 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ 发表于 2022-4-19 19:50
Football is all about using space to score goals and prevent opponents from scoring. The objecti ...

I agree with that. My doubt is how you find the "answer" of the patch/expansion because we can see that almost all high ranking tactics have a certain similarities,such as 3-forwards or non-forwards.I guess simulations of fm-arena may use  evenly distributed attributes player,which is quiet different with the scenario when we play.Thus the simulation magnify the effect of tactics
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